Notes on Winging
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:11 pmWhat up fellas.
Ok, this are just a few observations and theories about winging that i have. A lot of guys briefly touch on wingmanship but don't point out a lot of the things that in my opinion make it effective.
Some of raising your wing's value in set seems really contrived and girls know exactly what's going when you start pumping your boy up like you are listing the features of a luxury automobile. Contrary to popular belief women are not stupid. Well... not socially at least. To me the biggest struggle in winging is that when I enter someone else's set I tend to steal attention away from them, conversley when someone comes into mine they tend to steal attention from me Even when they are proofed into the set or anchored into the conversation. This is why a lot of guys just flat out don't like working with a wing. Even though they intend to help each other this is something that is almost inevitable it seems. What is the best way to combat this? A timely ejection. No really. I've noticed recently that it works really well to enter your wing's set slightly raise the energy level and then leave almost immediately. To keep all of this in Top Gun terminology, to do a fly-by. Why does this help? First of all it simply makes your wing look alpha. He is stationary, you are coming in and out of his presence. Second it is simply more powerful to show her you are high value then for your wing (someone she doesn't even know or trust yet) telling her some dhv story. So for your wing to say something along the lines of "Where do you guys know eachother from?" HER - "We just met a second ago." WINGMAN - "Oh, my bad. I'm so used to this guy introducing me to people I figured you guys knew each other." Then he asks if you want a drink and ejects. If there is an obstacle to disarm he can come back into set later. It is important for the person who opened to remain the center of attention as long as possible initially. When the wing is brief initially he is more like a distraction and won't steal energy from you later when he returns to the set. If he lingers initially he will. Can't explain exactly why this works, but it seems more effective especially when it a 2 set of girls or mixed set. Try it out let me know what you think.
Strategy #2 Different energy levels
Ok so we already know that if you bring your wing into set with you there's a strong possibility that he will steal energy whether trying to or not. Why not use that to your advantage and open sets for each other. Solace and I do this frequently. One of us will approach with high energy and talk to 2-4 set about the others woes and why we should all try to convince him to have a good time tonight. Then the other will come into set with way lower energy level. He can even play the wounded duck role. Any conversation topic will work here. "Hey guys do you think a girl is lying when she says...." "Ladies I have a question, what cheers you up when...." I've even heard Solace say to a 5 set that I opened for him that he has trouble meeting girls... to which all them went"aaaaawwwwww" in unison and flocked to his defense. We both got shots bought for us by them, he number closed his target and I closed another girl in the set.
I'm not stating anything as universally true. These things might just work for us because of the way approach and wing for each other. Hope you guys get something from this or have some more insight to share.
Ok, this are just a few observations and theories about winging that i have. A lot of guys briefly touch on wingmanship but don't point out a lot of the things that in my opinion make it effective.
Some of raising your wing's value in set seems really contrived and girls know exactly what's going when you start pumping your boy up like you are listing the features of a luxury automobile. Contrary to popular belief women are not stupid. Well... not socially at least. To me the biggest struggle in winging is that when I enter someone else's set I tend to steal attention away from them, conversley when someone comes into mine they tend to steal attention from me Even when they are proofed into the set or anchored into the conversation. This is why a lot of guys just flat out don't like working with a wing. Even though they intend to help each other this is something that is almost inevitable it seems. What is the best way to combat this? A timely ejection. No really. I've noticed recently that it works really well to enter your wing's set slightly raise the energy level and then leave almost immediately. To keep all of this in Top Gun terminology, to do a fly-by. Why does this help? First of all it simply makes your wing look alpha. He is stationary, you are coming in and out of his presence. Second it is simply more powerful to show her you are high value then for your wing (someone she doesn't even know or trust yet) telling her some dhv story. So for your wing to say something along the lines of "Where do you guys know eachother from?" HER - "We just met a second ago." WINGMAN - "Oh, my bad. I'm so used to this guy introducing me to people I figured you guys knew each other." Then he asks if you want a drink and ejects. If there is an obstacle to disarm he can come back into set later. It is important for the person who opened to remain the center of attention as long as possible initially. When the wing is brief initially he is more like a distraction and won't steal energy from you later when he returns to the set. If he lingers initially he will. Can't explain exactly why this works, but it seems more effective especially when it a 2 set of girls or mixed set. Try it out let me know what you think.
Strategy #2 Different energy levels
Ok so we already know that if you bring your wing into set with you there's a strong possibility that he will steal energy whether trying to or not. Why not use that to your advantage and open sets for each other. Solace and I do this frequently. One of us will approach with high energy and talk to 2-4 set about the others woes and why we should all try to convince him to have a good time tonight. Then the other will come into set with way lower energy level. He can even play the wounded duck role. Any conversation topic will work here. "Hey guys do you think a girl is lying when she says...." "Ladies I have a question, what cheers you up when...." I've even heard Solace say to a 5 set that I opened for him that he has trouble meeting girls... to which all them went"aaaaawwwwww" in unison and flocked to his defense. We both got shots bought for us by them, he number closed his target and I closed another girl in the set.
I'm not stating anything as universally true. These things might just work for us because of the way approach and wing for each other. Hope you guys get something from this or have some more insight to share.