Micro calibration V.S. Stacking

[Guest]

Ever since I found the community I've been stacking in all my sets. I will just do a routines back to back. This is pretty much the most common type of method used. The problem is that sometimes I will lose the set completely, or I will be the coolest person they have met. I never understood why some will just open up easily and others will just completely blow me out.

The advantages with stacking is that you will always have something to say no matter what. I always had at least ten routines line up ready for use. Well the problem was that I didn't calibrate correctly from their body language, i just ran the same routines over and over.

Then i found a new method, micro calibration, and to sum it up it just operates on IOI and IOD's. Like for every thing that you say she will either respond with an IOI or an IOD, no matter how vague it is. Then i will calibrate correctly to fit the situation. The problem is that this requires more of a "natural ability" to peform and routines can't always be used.

The way i use this is that i compare myself with Brad Pitt or a lousy homless begger. What will a girl do if i was either BP or a hobo. For example, if she accidently touches my leg, she wouldn't do this for a hobo, but she will for BP so this is an IOI no matter how discrete.

What do you guys think, micro or Stacking?

[Guest]

I think routine stacks are a decent way for a newbie to get his feet wet, that's about it.

I don't really like the idea of "micro-calibration" so much either, because if you're thinking that much about what you're doing you are fucking yourself up. But again, it could be a good stepping stone while you get some experience and internalize some good behaviors.

[Guest]

I would say calibration is more of a skill than a method, and like good body language, can operate concurrent with whatever other style you want to use.

Stacks are good for newbies precisely because they don't require calibration. They can work without any feedback and are therefore easier when that skill is missing.

As for the distinction between calibration and micro-calibration, I think it's not a different type of thing but rather just a matter of degree.

[Guest]

I disagree that routines are only for newbies. If you use a story more than once, that is a rountine and my guess is everyone does that. When I use routines, they are ones that I made up and are grounded in my life but they are still routines. It is nice to have a few to get the interaction going or to fall back on if the convo dies. I usually mix some of my own routines with improv and I am a bit heavier on the improv but the routines are still important.

[Guest]

To clarify, routines are [i]not[/i] just for newbies. I have some that I still use, and probably always will.

What I meant was routine stacks, where you go from one to the next to the next. And when you don't know what to do, "stack forward."

[Guest]

I say just go pull your cock out and talk to those hookers. Forget all the PUA tech crap.

[Guest]

My take on this is that routines are great for people with enormous, crippling amounts of approach anxiety and for those who don't have much experience in-set. They offer a great crutch, because not only do they give you something to say but they also help shield your ego if you get rejected. "It was the routines, not me!"

I think as you move on and become more comfortable with girls in general, you'll naturally ditch many of the pre-canned routines and come up with your own stuff that you like to do, that's very congruent to yourself. As long as you direct the conversation and exhibit a fun vibe then you can't go wrong. And, believe me, vibing with a girl is a hell of a lot more fun than spitting out other people's routines.

One thing that I've noticed: when the conversation "dies", it's not just your problem. It's her problem too, and she knows it. More often than not she'll be thinking of what to say too, and not judging you like you might think. So if you've already hooked, even asking a "lame" question like "do you come here a lot" will still work, because she'll be eager to continue the conversation.

On micro-calibration... come on, don't do it. It's fun and all to see pickup as a sort of battlefield tactical maneuver or a game of chess and you feel pretty cool when you make a "tactical maneuver", but where's the fun in that? I remember the very first FR I posted which consisted of me "approaching a set of seated obstacles in order to strategically pawn them for the 2-set HBs at my 6-oclock position" or some shit. I felt pretty cool after that. Not really, it's actually very lame. Oh yeah and I got a fake number. Just have fun, even if you make "technical" PUA mistakes it'll still be alright. You don't need to be the perfect pickup artist, just be the perfect you.

[Guest]

Oh yeah, and stop reading so much PUA stuff... it's no good for you. Fucks with your mind. Pick up the basics but don't become all weirdlike, which comes after extensive study without adequate amounts of fieldwork.

[Guest]

[quote1222706623=Acuity]Just have fun, even if you make "technical" PUA mistakes it'll still be alright. You don't need to be the perfect pickup artist, just be the perfect you.[/quote1222706623]


Agreed. It's good to be aware of what's going on in the interaction so that you have a bit of a road map to understand where you are in the interaction. It's not necessary to employ a ton of tactics like PU tries to teach, helpful sure, necessary no.

Sal's right. Everyone has routines because we all tell the same boring as stories to other people. If you tell a story more than once, it is a routine.

[Guest]

ok see, apparently it depends you you ask. i don't understand what's so hard about having a conversation that you would need to have routines. i mean, how are you getting int o situations where you are running out of things to say? just be iin the moment man. converstaions have a life of their own, just let them go where they go. no i don't have stories that i tell over and over, i avoid that because i HATE repeating shit.