Putting together a routine stack

[Kraven]

Playas

Likewise, I am familiar with these and the importance of them but I have not sat and come up with ONE (still using assorted things from a large body of material I have internalized to varying degree). Meaning, I rarely use specific stacks, but of course notice when I have attraction or when its time to isolate and just whip something out that (I hope) is appropriate

As far as help I can offer:

Basically you know your material well enough that you're sure you can direct the interaction, because your stack is well designed (to eliminate unusual contingencies) and flows well (well enough that you know exactly how to handle the contingencies that do come up)

The most basic thing to do is - follow a progression model as closely as possible (i.e. open, dhv, qualify, isolate, escalate, bounce or M3 or whatever you like) and have common thread for all the material that you use for all of those phases (like, your qualification is related to your DHV stories)

Also read the LRs of the guys that use them extensively. You want your stack to direct conversation and can use it to let your target know what you like in your, uh, targets and give them some clues on how to behave so that she qualifies. The more you know about modelling/patterning, chick logic, themes etc the more you can pack into it. Also, use your identity here (like your target qualifies because you're x type of guy and sick of this other type of HB who can't be spontaneous, etc). Then use it consistently to guage reaction to it and tweak it still more

[Tracer]

Thanks guys!

Looks like some of us have some homework to do...ha ha

[El Fenix]

Twitchy, Kraven thanks for the insight. The things that led me to want to develop a routine stack are:
1. some great PUA's use them
2. I use one for the sales and marketing job I started 2 months ago.
After using the same basic pitch many times, I finally hit as breakthrough point about 2 weeks ago that I know quickly who I can close, and most often do, and who's not worth pushing. It's kinda like being Neo and seeing the matrix.
My logic is that if it works for sales, (where a great many things transfer over to sarging, btw) why cant it work for my game?

I've got a bunch of material I've gathered and put in a word document, but use very little of it, as well as I have my own routines and comments I use quite often.
I'm short on DHV stories, and what CJ calls "heart melters" for comfort building.

[Rico]

ya, I am practicing the same routines over and over until I perfect them... See there is SOOOO much information that it is easy to get overwelmed. We read and listen to all the tactics, tricks, gambits, etc but then when we get in the field its hard to use them on the spot.

I'm taking the advice in "The Mystery Method" book or some post I read that basically says use the same routines over and over and over again until you get them down. You will blow out a lot of sets because you are trying to perfect it. Tone of voice, body posture etc will make and break them.

Once you have 2 or 3 routines, add one more good one. Slowly build them.

I use a routine I learned during the last PUA meeting:

1.) Opinion (older boss dating much younger girl, girl using him, what u think?)

2.) Chick fight (boobage popped out, saggy baggy no fun)

3.) If quiet enough, "The cube"

I do my best to stay away from 3 things I ALWAYS use to do:

Asked them boring questions: "What's your name?" "What do you do?" Where do you live?

Always trying to validate myself to them with my occupation, degrees, and job.

I never ask directly for their number anymore.... I now try to get them to WANT to give it to me.

[phoenix_rising]

I have a general stack that I use and adapt, although most of it is my own material that I'll post at a later date, however if you are interested now, just pm me

-phoenix