Hostile Climate Tactic

[Bull Run]

Well, the weather has changed and last night my heater went out (which it seems to do every fucking year even though it's basically brand new). Anyway, it got me thinking about a tactic that I inadvertently stumbled upon.

I call it the Hostile Climate Tactic.

This tactic can really only be used during the dead of Winter or during the middle of the Summer. It has got to be either so cold that having your heater on is a necessity or so hot that having your AC on is required.

Here's how it works:

You met a girl for a day2, I've even been able to successfully run this during an SNL. What you do is wait for an opportunity to talk about how hot or cold it is outside. You can accomplish this when you venue bounce, go outside for a smoke, even try to isolate her outside during crappy weather, or if she happens to bring it up. I've even gone as far as saying, "jesus you can tell it's freezing out there...everyone's bundled up in their cute little coats...makes you wonder if everyone's mom called and told them to throw on a coat before they left the house."

That's the first step, get it to come up in conversation. The second step is a hybrid of a funny story and a DHV.

HB: "It's freezing/hot outside."
Bull Run: "I know right...my fucking heater/AC went out the other day, my house is a damn freezer/oven."
HB: "Your heat/AC went out? When are you going to get it fixed?"
Bull Run: "Well, I'm pretty handy with tools and am somewhat mechanically inclined (two DHVs), so in all of my infinite wisdom I decided to grab the instructions to the unit and trek up to the attic and fix it myself. I actually used to do it when I was a kid growing up because I came from a single parent family and we were poor. So, I haul all of my tools and the instructions to the unit up to the attic and I realize that I grabbed the instructions that were written in what looked like Swahili..."
HB: Usually they're laughing by now.
Bull Run: "Yeah, yuck it up. Anyway, in all of my infinite wisdom I decided to just look at the pictures and work off of them. Yeah, bad idea...I think I fucked it up more than it already was screwed up. Now, I have to get a technician out there to check it out and I know he's going to ask what I did to it...and, I'm going to have to lie because that's what men do when we've tinkered with something and made it worse."

Anyway, the HB will probably laugh at story because it's pretty funny and very stereotypical which she'll enjoy. And, there are a couple of threads that the story can lead you:

1) Usually they'll ask where you live, which means you can ask the same. If you live some place cool, this is a great chance to DHV.
2) Sometimes they'll say that they think it's hot that you're Mister Fix-it...or at least try to be
3) Sometimes, for me at least, they'll ask about my childhood (remember I slipped in some historical facts about my life during the story)
4) Sometimes, they'll blantantly ask you where you're going to stay tonight (to which you always respond...depends, if it's too cold/hot I'll just sleep in the car, then shoot her a wink and smile)

Now comes for the good part. I would say 7 times out of 10, they'll ask you if your heat/AC is really out. To which you'll respond, yes. Then, they'll offer for you to come over to her place so you don't have to be uncomfortable all night. They'll do this for two reasons: 1) they like to nurture and take care of people AND 2) they want you to come over but don't want to appear like a whore.

When they offer, I always say: "Well, I'm the guest so you're going to have give up your bed and sleep on the couch..."

By saying this, you've diffused the idea that you think that sex will occur (which it absolutely will). And, this is the key here, as it usually is with women. If she invites you over, it's for the purpose of making you feel more comfortable and taking care of you, not sex. If you accept, you have to reinforce that idea and make it clear that you don't plan to have sex with her. Of course, do it in a cocky and funny way.

I've actually run this tactic 2 or 3 times when it was legit (i.e. my shit really was broken). I've also run this tactic 5 or 6 other times when it was not legit. Either way, it'll work and she'll never really know. Just be sure to mention to her in the future, if you see her again, that you got your shit fixed and that the technician didn't believe you when you said you didn't tinker with it. It completes the joke and makes the entire story seem legit.

Understand, that this technique is to always be run when you've been in comfort for a while. And, I've found that it's a very powerful tactic to get girls that you've met online to invite you to their place on your first face-to-face meeting.

Finally, yes, this is gimmicky but it has worked for me in the past and it's a very innocuous, innocent way to get back to their house without the girl believing that you're going purely for sex.

[Guest]

Thats awesome, pure gold right there!

[Guest]

Bravo again BullRun!!! I like the subtleness and the sheer adaptability, especially for transistioning online encounters. Fucking gold!

[Guest]

OK well its not pure gold of course, but I do like this post. Quite rare for the forum to actually address real world issues one will face in field as opposed to hypothetical garbage. It might cause actual discussion of real topics. Shock horror.

To review, skit here is you either pretend or actually have your heater out, and MOST IMPORTANTLY you just slipped that out there i.e. she does not believe / does not care this was premeditated (the first applies to mostly everybody).

Now lets take a step back. Why and how is this seemingly innocuous thread turned into a nugget right in front of our eyes? Watch..

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they'll offer for you to come over to her place so you don't have to be uncomfortable all night.[/QUOTE]

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If she invites you over, it's for the purpose of making you feel more comfortable and taking care of you[/QUOTE]

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Understand, that this technique is to always be run when you've been in comfort for a while.[/QUOTE]

BR, in his example, has comfort and (most presumably) attraction from this girl. He has flipped the famous Tyler S/C switch. This girl allowed her feelings to be in play. BR should definitely be fully aware her attraction level by this point (BL will tell if not spoken), and would have assessed it to be that she fancies him. A very favourable situation.

Is there a certain degree of baiting her to chase it? Absolutely Yes. Understand though .. the bating is not through choice as much as necessity. Unless you want to wait for her moment you might want to move this along.. This is a good way I suppose. A little exorbitant but could be done. Frankly why do you need it (just ask her to fuck).. But still it would work.

The real nuts and bolts are .. for it to work she has to make the determinatoin you are safe enough to be alone in her house together. IMO that was the accomplishment, and now you can use the fact and many many other tactics to move her along. Sum it up in 1 word .. Trust. How quickly can you build it?

It won't work at all unless you are in that goldilocks zone of comfort and attraction. For the record very good PUA can have comfort with the right girl and from people in general very quickly - by charm. E.g. You are in random towns and can get invited from bars to peeps houses to drinks or /w a girl.

Also bear in mind many many girls will not want you at all, so you have to manufacture face time with the right girl. To me that is game. Always remember to keep perspective.

Cheers and good post BR

[Guest]

This is an old post but still a good one!

When I first got into game I was remodeling my house. I had no idea what a huge DHV it is to have the ability to do this stuff and do it well... I replaced all of the drywall, re-furbished my 1950's original grade A maple floors, gutted my bathroom down to the studs etc etc... Needless to say my place was usually dusty and cluster fucked during heavy demo. Quite a few times chics would invite me over "for a place to crash" to get away from it all.

A while back, I met a chic for a day 2 for dinner at a restaurant and bounced venues to a club for her friends party. During dinner while building comfort I mentioned that I was remodeling my place and it was kinda torn up otherwise I would have cooked for her... I told her how perfect my ceiling was and expressed that remodeling is like art and the house is my canvas blah blah blah. Her eyes lit up and she really wanted to see my ceiling lol! This put her mind in my bedroom on my bed looking up. It implied soo much. I knew what I was doing. I Fclosed this chic at my place later that night because of the remodeling I had done.
After sex she started crying. I asked her why she was crying. She said it was because my ceiling was soo perfect LOL!!! Apparently her stepfather had done remodeling in the house she grew up in and he never put any heart into anything that he touched. The fact that I could do something like this touched her soo much she couldn't help but cry.

The remodeling was a legit reason in her mind to come "take a look" without kicking in her ASD.

Rather than making up stories about handi-man skills for DHV purposes; I recommend guys actually find an interest in some type of art or skill that can be applied visually.