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Need some quick C&F text help

Postby Twitchy » Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:11 am

In a restaurant on Friday, I just randomly ran into an HB10+ crush from a previous life when I lived in Austin.

I used to run a company down there and I hired some UT students (guys and girls) in Austin to do some promotions. This one HB10+ girl, a graduating senior, was phenomenal - exactly my type - and all of my employees keep telling me that she asked about me quite a bit and seemed interested in me. I ended up becoming friends with one of the guys who was doing promotions and is also her roommate. He and I partied a lot and he also tells me that she asks about me a lot.

The problem I have then is that I don't date my employees. Period. The end. The nice thing is that she was graduating and moving to Dallas for a full-time job.

Just before graduation, my buddy has a birthday and HB10+ organizes a party at a strip club and invites me. We have a great time and I end up isolating HB10+ for a bit and getting to know her better and then we all go back to their place to party. I ditch out about 5am leaving them all to continue partying.

I get a call a few days later from HB10+ saying that I need to show her around when she moves to Dallas in mid June.

I wait until mid June and call her and leave a message. She calls me back the next day and we talk for a bit and she complains that she hasn't found any good nightlife yet and that she doesn't know where to go. I tell her some events that are going on and some bars she might like that I would like to take her to. She says that they sound great and that I should give her a call. I called her four times after that and she never returned my call.
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Present:
Turns out her new job has her working a couple of buildings down the street from me. I waved at her when I saw her in line at the restaurant and after about 10 minutes left my seat and went over, gave her a hug and we chatted for a couple of minutes. She seemed genuinely pleased to see me and offered up personal details about where she is living, etc. and asked me similar questions.

I purposely kept the interaction short as she was with coworkers and if she really wanted to kick me out of her life for some unknown reason, I didn't want to make the situation awkward for her.

As I parted, I asked if she still had my number. She said yes. I told her to call me sometime if she wants to do happy hour or lunch sometime. She said she would like that. Since she had not returned the last 4 of my previous calls, I didn't want to be too aggressive and say I would call her.

I went back and joined my group and finished lunch. As I was leaving, she smiled at me and waved again.

Any ideas on what to do next? I didn't hear from her over the weekend (and didn't expect to). I am reluctant to call since she was bad about returning my calls before. I am thinking an off the wall text might be a good way to start things off.

Advice? Ideas?
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Postby Mojo » Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:23 pm

Being a business owner is high social status. You are the tribal leader in that aspect. And I agree it is a good policy not to date employees. I understand where you are coming from - on average, about twice a year I get various women who work for me try to bait me. They realize I am not biting and they respect that. Running a business is serious, chasing after women definitely undermines that.

Today the situation is different. No longer do you have her immediate social group reporting to you. She belongs to a new social group and is probably seeking status in that group by making “alliances” with the appropriate people. Instinctively she should.

Do you know any of her peers here in Dallas? One possible route is to make friends with those in her social group. Earn the respect of her peer group. By being on the periphery and earning the respect of her social group she can’t help but notice.

She works near you. Nice coincidence. You will probably have a few more chance meetings with her. It would be a nice habit to start going to lunch with the hottest girls in your group and pay her no attention when you do see her. Ensure you are the center of attention of the group. And even if you don’t see her or if she doesn’t respond, this will at least catch the attention of other HB’s in the area and adds to your status at your job.

I do not know the entire situation therefore I do not know how practical these ideas are. The best way to attract girls is to have plenty of hot HB’s in your life already. And when you genuinely don’t need HB’s, you don’t show interest in them (as in the don’t date your employee rule), and that’s when they want you.

Hope this helps.

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Postby Twitchy » Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:23 pm

Unfortunately, I don't know any of her peers here in Dallas. I know her sister is a bartendar at a local bar but I have never met her sister so I wouldn't know who she is unless they look like twins. There are lots of restaurants near my current client so who knows if I will coincidentally run into her again.

I sent her an off the wall text which any inquisitive person would have responded to but I seriously doubt she even still has my number and she didn't return it.

My coworkers and I go to happy hour quite often. I plan on just giving her a ring some time and invite her out with us. She either joins up or not. Nice thing is, I don't have one-it-is with her. She is simply the "one that got away" and I always like the chase.

In all honesty, she had quite a bit of personal drama when I knew her and she may be the kind of girl that attracts that. I have a demanding job and 4 MLTRs and recently started dating 3 new HBs so I don't have time for much B.S. In fact, I just hit the milestone of having as many fresh LRs as my age. I am not ready to give up yet but don't plan on going out of my way to woo her.....
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Postby warriorpoet » Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:03 am

hello from across the pond :)

like mojo said im not familiar with the exact dynamic here but something im not in love with about what is going on in your situ is that as per your lowered value (4 unreturned calls, text) opening and engineering 1 on 1 or socially cliched meetings (like joining you for alcohol) has become difficult/unhelpful, so perhaps a way to go is to host an event with some social obligation tied to it (eg a dinner party...she cant really refuse) to get her there. the advantage here is that the frame is always yours to take (yorue the host) and by default, your social proof is huge. the downside is that...you have to host a party lol

imo her relocation is a great window of opportunity (you have the chance to become a pillar of her social universe) so imo, do whatever it is sooner rather than late.

is there another hook you can throw out to suck her into your world? are you a myspace guy? email? youve done the text thing so you cant thrash that too hard...

anyway good luck
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