FR(s): Learning new things.. (good and bad)

[relax]

Sup. I’m going to skip the usual reports and write up the ones where I feel like I’ve learned something new (as miniscule as it may be). I’m sure that for some of you it may be things you’ve already gone through but please keep in mind that the following is new territory for me. Please contribute as much as you can since I'm always willing to learn. Even harsh criticism is fine. Anyway, I feel that the further I get in this, the more interesting/weird things I end up encountering. It’s not necessarily mind blowing, just .. eye opening.

Girl with the boyfriend
Went up to a girl and expressed interest right away. She was all giggles and everything felt smoother than it should. I asked her what she’s hiding from me. She said that she has a boyfriend and pointed to this big hulk of a guy walking my way. First thing I did was remain confident / assertive and said to the boyfriend walking towards us:
Me: “hey man, I’m relax, what’s your name?”
Him: “<name here>”
Me: “Cool dude, I was just hitting on your girlfriend until she told me about you”
Him: *laughing* “hey man I’d do the same”
And then I told him that he was lucky to have her and they both hugged each other affectionately. The girl had the biggest smile on her face and tucked herself underneath his arms.

What I learned: I don’t need to be worried about guys or boyfriends. Act natural, confident and you’ll be fine. In fact, the couple usually ends up better after your interaction.

Chick who took my number
Opened another girl, can’t remember the specifics. Just opened, vibed, hit attract, tried to timebridge, tried to # close. She neither agreed to a time to meet up at and also told me that she’ll take my number instead. Overall, this was just a bad set but it has been a long time since someone number closed me. It goes to show that something was severely lacking in my game. I either fucked up somewhere or she was just not interested.

What I learned: I learned that I was not at all waiting on her to call me. I’ve relearned that women usually never do. I’ve also learned that next time something like this happens, it may not be worth giving her my number unless she seems really interested.

Hot girl that I have to, unfortunately, let go…
Talked to (let’s call her NiceTits),I immediately take a seat on a bench close by, she’s standing up for a bit before she sat down next to me, vibed about random stuff, did a cold read, vibed again, set up a SOLID timebridge, #closed.
So the next day, I text her, I pick her up. She’s looking smoking hot wearing a dress that shows off her waist. A little bit about her, she’s 18, smoking body with beautiful eyes. I remember one instance where a girl with her bf caught him looking at her and pulls his head away. Anyway, the bad part: I can tolerate a wide variety of girls, dumb, smart, entitled etc. But this girl literally made my dick shrivel. How? The shit she said did that. We got into deep rapport and I found out that she has had a history of abuse. When she told me stories, I literally felt sad and scared at the same time. How could a girl so beautiful be so … damaged? It blew my mind. Even touching her was uncomfortable after I heard a bit about her past. I really didn’t want to do anything with her after all that so I dropped her home but not before I kissed her. Now, I am regretting I did that. Why did I do that? I don’t know. I am going to talk to her every now and then but I am NOT pursuing anymore.

What I learned: Sometimes, you have to let things go. As hot as some women are, the results are not worth the pursuit. This is especially true if she’s damaged goods. Another thing I learned, setting up a solid timebridge before getting her number. This includes a run through of the date etc.

[ninjamatt]

the girl who was hot but damaged is one you shouldn't throw by the waste side. she may have wanted you to know her background early, but it's not necessarily something she's always going to talk about and it's something you may not be concerned about in time. I look at it as not penalizing a girl for something she had no control over. she may not be wife material but don't lose the number. Sometimes you will go through peaks and valleys in pick up where communicating with someone like that, having a friend like that is useful. Those are the 3 some ,pivot, string along kind.

One thing I would have done on the chick that refused to give her number but asked for yours is smile, laugh, look her in the eye and say, I changed my mind, I don't want your number. Then just ignore her. The chance that would prolong the conversation is better than her texting you.

I loved your first one about the Hulk boyfriend. One thing I've done a few times in about 10 years of sarging when they tell me they are the boyfriend is say this; "Well Ok man, she's not hot enough for me to go ahead and steal from ya or anything." what's funny is when she has elite looks and Im obviously lying. One time I did it, the guy acted like he wanted to be friends and the girl was hanging on every word I said. After a few minutes of chit chat I bummed a smoke and walked off bored with them. the other time, the dude smirked and jerked her away and walked off.

Remember , in both the last 2 points I made, your body language, the feciousness in your laugh, and tone of voice has a lot to do with how it's gonna go. You have to transform yourself in to an actor when you see you are about to get bombed.

[relax]

the girl who was hot but damaged is one you shouldn't throw by the waste side. she may have wanted you to know her background early, but it's not necessarily something she's always going to talk about and it's something you may not be concerned about in time. I look at it as not penalizing a girl for something she had no control over. she may not be wife material but don't lose the number. Sometimes you will go through peaks and valleys in pick up where communicating with someone like that, having a friend like that is useful. Those are the 3 some ,pivot, string along kind.

One thing I would have done on the chick that refused to give her number but asked for yours is smile, laugh, look her in the eye and say, I changed my mind, I don't want your number. Then just ignore her. The chance that would prolong the conversation is better than her texting you.

I loved your first one about the Hulk boyfriend. One thing I've done a few times in about 10 years of sarging when they tell me they are the boyfriend is say this; "Well Ok man, she's not hot enough for me to go ahead and steal from ya or anything." what's funny is when she has elite looks and Im obviously lying. One time I did it, the guy acted like he wanted to be friends and the girl was hanging on every word I said. After a few minutes of chit chat I bummed a smoke and walked off bored with them. the other time, the dude smirked and jerked her away and walked off.

Remember , in both the last 2 points I made, your body language, the feciousness in your laugh, and tone of voice has a lot to do with how it's gonna go. You have to transform yourself in to an actor when you see you are about to get bombed.

Hey man, thanks for taking the time to reply! It's crazy how much you learn from other people's perspectives. Here I was ready to dump this girl when what you said makes more sense to me now. I guess I was subconsciously penalizing her, but it's more like I didn't want to deal with the drama. Now that I look at it from your point of view, it makes more sense to keep her and have her as a pivot or a friend even. Also about what you said about the girl that took my number... I will incorporate that, it's not even worth wasting my time with things like that.

[ninjamatt]

the girl who was hot but damaged is one you shouldn't throw by the waste side. she may have wanted you to know her background early, but it's not necessarily something she's always going to talk about and it's something you may not be concerned about in time. I look at it as not penalizing a girl for something she had no control over. she may not be wife material but don't lose the number. Sometimes you will go through peaks and valleys in pick up where communicating with someone like that, having a friend like that is useful. Those are the 3 some ,pivot, string along kind.

One thing I would have done on the chick that refused to give her number but asked for yours is smile, laugh, look her in the eye and say, I changed my mind, I don't want your number. Then just ignore her. The chance that would prolong the conversation is better than her texting you.

I loved your first one about the Hulk boyfriend. One thing I've done a few times in about 10 years of sarging when they tell me they are the boyfriend is say this; "Well Ok man, she's not hot enough for me to go ahead and steal from ya or anything." what's funny is when she has elite looks and Im obviously lying. One time I did it, the guy acted like he wanted to be friends and the girl was hanging on every word I said. After a few minutes of chit chat I bummed a smoke and walked off bored with them. the other time, the dude smirked and jerked her away and walked off.

Remember , in both the last 2 points I made, your body language, the feciousness in your laugh, and tone of voice has a lot to do with how it's gonna go. You have to transform yourself in to an actor when you see you are about to get bombed.

Hey man, thanks for taking the time to reply! It's crazy how much you learn from other people's perspectives. Here I was ready to dump this girl when what you said makes more sense to me now. I guess I was subconsciously penalizing her, but it's more like I didn't want to deal with the drama. Now that I look at it from your point of view, it makes more sense to keep her and have her as a pivot or a friend even. Also about what you said about the girl that took my number... I will incorporate that, it's not even worth wasting my time with things like that.

A lot of girls especially the hot ones have suffered some form of abuse by the time they are high school age. At 18, shes just now learning that she doesn't need to talk about it to prospective lovers b/c it will turn them away. I've been with a few girls who were in their 20's I could tell were probably like that versus ones who I could tell were sheltered, and when the abused get older and a little more experience in the real world the topic never comes up.

[Bull Run]

A lot of girls especially the hot ones have suffered some form of abuse by the time they are high school age. At 18, shes just now learning that she doesn't need to talk about it to prospective lovers b/c it will turn them away. I've been with a few girls who were in their 20's I could tell were probably like that versus ones who I could tell were sheltered, and when the abused get older and a little more experience in the real world the topic never comes up.

This is pretty accurate. I'd venture to say that virtually all women have felt victimized by some form of trauma in the past. Women, especially young, attractive ones, are very good at putting themselves in bad situations and very good at playing the victim. It's the same reason why women constantly blame men for sex when, in fact, women are the gate keepers to that realm of human interaction.

The ones that have truly been damaged (sexual abuse, rape, etc.) are actually quite accomodating and nurturing when they meet a man they feel safe with...not to mention that they're usually very, very risque in the sack. The only drawback is that these types of women are very clingy and emotionally volatile. If you can learn to manage those negative aspects, you'll have a loyal lover that thinks of you as a god. If you can handle the pressure, being put on a pedestal isn't a bad place to be.

[relax]

Thanks for the replies guys. I took both of your advises and decided to keep her around. I guess it's just weird for me since I haven't really encountered anything like this before. Sometimes she's cold, sometimes she's warm etc. So far, no really predicting her. I had to tell her to text before she just drops by unannounced. I don't think she's a loyal lover though.. It seems that the closer we get, the more distant she becomes. No problem though, I need to find more anyway I've been meeting some new chicks; will post FRs/LRs later if anything comes out of them. Only one of the chicks I've been recently talking to is hotter but I have a feeling nothing will happen. We'll see.