FR: How could I have made this a kiss?

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FR: How could I have made this a kiss?

Postby red » Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:16 am

Hey guys. RED here.

I want to know A) What does anyone think about how I could have gotten a kiss close with Asian big tits? B) Why did she mocked my body language for a laugh?

So I was debating going home, after walking around to a few places tonight at the Highlands, in Arlington. I had only been there for like 20-30 minutes. At that point, I had only one set in, 2 girls, both not into it. I blew it. No worries.

All gravy baby.

I was walking to my truck, sober(I do not always drink when I go out). Being a 245 lbs, 6'2 guy, with a chronic back muscle problem, I tend to require myself to push through it, and keep good posture.


I may have been walking different, however. A beauty of an Asian girl,(DRUNK AS FUCK) with some bolt on's walked directly towards me. I watch her approach me, and she begins walking LIKE A GORILLA! Now I have to admit, the shit was funny as hell.


Perhaps the way I walked shifted when I saw her, I just do not remember.


I have a RED "afro" that I do sometimes slick back, but tonight did not give a fuck, and just let it be crazy.

Girl: "WHAT IS THIS?" Walks up like a gorilla, then starts laughing.

(I ignore it, and smile, and listen to her drunkenness.)

Girl: "Blah CARROT TOP Blah Blah, I saw you and thought you were CARROT TOP. What are you doing?"

RED:"Blah blah...I am here to entertain."

RED: "Who are you?"

(Holding her hand, looking in her eyes.)

Girl: "[Drunk girl name]... (stammering)"
(My intent was totally interupted at this point, 10 seconds in. I think I focused too much on how drunk she was, and her mocking my walk already had fucked with my head.)
(I held her hand for a second, and at this point, I think I could have just made out with her.)

(We share a few seconds really in each others eyes, then I think I FAILED to keep the gaze.)
(This is an area I have been working, eye contact, and just by writing this, I see that was a sticking point, that I could have annihilated her with my gaze.
RED: "Your going to drive home this drunk?"

Girl: "Blah, I am driving my friends car. Blah blah blah."

(I feel that the exchange of eye contact could have made me a instant hottie in her eyes, if I had just kept it. I could feel a possible kiss coming on, and that has never really happened before.)

Girl begins to walk away, toward the car, and her friend emerges from another car, and gets in.

(I might have done well here going caveman, but it was in a parking lot, and a cop was walking around...watching me, I later noted.)

In retrospect, she was so drunk, I should have never said a word, just fucking held her, kissed her, and sent her on her way.

Also, seriously. What the hell does the gorilla walk mean. Was she recognizing my stature, as a huge mofo, and mocking it? Is there value in that, or was it pure fun?

This is my first field report, and just writing it has shown me a few things.


However, the best part about this experience, is how it threw me into state. I then went back to a bar, had a huge set of people, who were all pretty cool people. Enjoyed a great conversation with almost all of 10 of them.

Thanks to all who read, and who respond!
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Re: How could I have made this a kiss?

Postby Bull Run » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:14 pm

You're over thinking this man. She was drunk and was just entertaining herself at your expense. This is not a set. I wouldn't worry about much of anything she said. And, you could have gotten a kiss if you would have just taken one but that's only because she's drunk. Now, the 'set' helped you get in state which is awesome. Sometimes, that's the point of a 'set.' Not to close it but to get you going. I've always done that. I start with the ugs, get the social juices flowing, then start working the targets I actually want. Plus anyways, if you talk to everyone it gives you a lot of value AND presents opportunities. You never know who knows who. An ug could open the door to her hot friend.

As for your size. Years ago, I knew a guy named TopDog. He's since moved on to Phoenix and last I checked is married. Anyway, this fucker was HUGE. I'm talking like pushing 300lbs not fat persay, just big and tall as fuck, like 6'6"+. He was always the biggest guy in the venue, always. His game is best described as the gentle giant. If you're physically imposing, then you have to cut that with something light. He would regularly go beta with girls because his size screamed alpha. Contrast is king man. Heavy hand, soft touch sort of thing.

I can attest to this as well. When I first got into game, I weighted about 190lbs (I'm 6'0" and worked out regularly). Over the years, I've added quite a bit of muscle to my frame. I'd say somewhere in the neighborhood of 30lbs. I've found that women find the extra size attractive, women love muscles. When I'm talking to women (friends, co-workers, dates, targets, etc) and it's a social situation, I always notice them touching my chest or arms to sneak a feel. Most of the time, they don't even know they're doing it...so fucked up. I regularly call them out on being Handsy McHandsy, which is pretty well received. Anyway, today, my game has changed. I'm a little less aggressive with my body language, I use humor and playfulness way more than in the past, I never go caveman or direct right away. Being taller and much bigger than women intimidates them, so you have to cut it with some gentleness. Like I said, contrast is king. For the smaller guys in stature out there, you have to project a personality of being big and powerful...you have to have a HUGE personality. Aggressiveness and confidence are your height and muscles.
The difference is indifference.
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Re: How could I have made this a kiss?

Postby Khaos » Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:25 pm

Bull Run wrote:You're over thinking this man. She was drunk and was just entertaining herself at your expense. This is not a set. I wouldn't worry about much of anything she said. And, you could have gotten a kiss if you would have just taken one but that's only because she's drunk. Now, the 'set' helped you get in state which is awesome. Sometimes, that's the point of a 'set.' Not to close it but to get you going. I've always done that. I start with the ugs, get the social juices flowing, then start working the targets I actually want. Plus anyways, if you talk to everyone it gives you a lot of value AND presents opportunities. You never know who knows who. An ug could open the door to her hot friend.

As for your size. Years ago, I knew a guy named TopDog. He's since moved on to Phoenix and last I checked is married. Anyway, this fucker was HUGE. I'm talking like pushing 300lbs not fat persay, just big and tall as fuck, like 6'6"+. He was always the biggest guy in the venue, always. His game is best described as the gentle giant. If you're physically imposing, then you have to cut that with something light. He would regularly go beta with girls because his size screamed alpha. Contrast is king man. Heavy hand, soft touch sort of thing.

I can attest to this as well. When I first got into game, I weighted about 190lbs (I'm 6'0" and worked out regularly). Over the years, I've added quite a bit of muscle to my frame. I'd say somewhere in the neighborhood of 30lbs. I've found that women find the extra size attractive, women love muscles. When I'm talking to women (friends, co-workers, dates, targets, etc) and it's a social situation, I always notice them touching my chest or arms to sneak a feel. Most of the time, they don't even know they're doing it...so fucked up. I regularly call them out on being Handsy McHandsy, which is pretty well received. Anyway, today, my game has changed. I'm a little less aggressive with my body language, I use humor and playfulness way more than in the past, I never go caveman or direct right away. Being taller and much bigger than women intimidates them, so you have to cut it with some gentleness. Like I said, contrast is king. For the smaller guys in stature out there, you have to project a personality of being big and powerful...you have to have a HUGE personality. Aggressiveness and confidence are your height and muscles.


This is true, drunk girls don't count. Ive made with a girl and her friend in one night while they were drinking. They weren't drunk, but alcohol does influence thinking in an negative way. If you want an easy lay that does not require skill, then go for it but keep in mind you bringing problems such as "who the fuck is" on her end or even worse.
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Re: How could I have made this a kiss?

Postby red » Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:16 pm

Day 15 on my challenge....


I have learned much since this post.
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