Outgoing guy, first time officially "Sarging" MM

[Sizzle]

This was my first time going out, with the intention of using pickup. I am normally a social-able guy, but I just wanted to up my game. I had very little to no Approach Anxiety over the 2 nights I went out "Sarging".

I think I did pretty well, I opened up 13 sets each night (26 total), and I had my buddy with me, and I schooled him on some of the Mystery Method on the way up there, kind of let him on the club a little bit. He loved it.

The Good

I opened up sets very gracefully, I don't have a problem talking to to people. I was able to get (most) girls to qualify herself to me. I was able to demonstrate social proof -- at one point -- I felt like the entire bar was mine. My body language was that of a sexual tiger. I was able to get a girl (Ugly Bitch 5...tops) to bounce with me to another venue within 1 minute (she brought her friends, Ugly Bitch 3 and Ugly Bitch 4) . Quickly pawned them off on some loser.

In my second set, some chicks bought ME a drink! *at the bar* Me: "No cutting!" HB6 "There's not really a line" Me: "We'll there's a flow, and you're messing it up!" HB6 "Well let me buy you a drink for messing up your flow"

I had a lot of spontaneous and situational openers come up and all but 1 worked well.

My opener was pretty on point --

Me: "Do you think Ke$ha is hot?"
HB: blah blah blah "I don't know who she is", "Yes", "In a weird way", "No"
Me: "Well my buddy just started dating this girl and I told him that she looked like Ke$ha and walked off... well I ended up finding out he took it as an insult and now hates my guts. I tried to explain to him that I think Ke$ha is hot, but he won't have anything to do with me. Should I apologize to my buddy ?
HB: blah blah blah

Another routine I had pretty good success with (but some bad) is that I told girls I was a professional kite flyer ("But, we call it "Tearin' up the Sky") . They almost never believed me, but were intrigued, half of them busted out their iPhones and looked up professional kite flying to see if it was really a sport. (It is!) This lead to further jokes as "Have you ever been with a professional athlete?" and "I'll write you a poem in the sky with my kite and a smoke bomb!"

I talked to everybody, never spent more than 3-5 minutes without a girl around me the entire night. Even talking to sets on the street.

Was able to read body language, and observe groups and group behavior.


The Bad

On the first night, I spent wayyy too long on the set that bought me a drink, not at first, but we bumped into them at another bar and spent too much time talking. I also did this set entirely over the shoulder.

I had no clue or flow from A1, A2, A3 etc , recognized few IOI's , skipped a lot of steps. Never did any kino -- AT ALL. I didn't stack the first night , second night was better on stacking. I did great at the opener, but never did much past that. I could never really build attraction, DHV or anything like that. Just pretty good on the openers, and stack on them. Never really go to the social hook point I thought.

I never approached the group, only my target.

*After walking up a long flight of stairs to the rooftop balcony and finding it dark, and mostly full of dudes and empty*

Me: (Over the shoulder) Man, you think after a hike like that you would expect this roof top to be all sorts of fun!
HB 7.5 : "I KNOW RIGHT!"
Me: "So who are you hear with?" (I think I said this, it wasn't too original)
HB 7.5 : "Um, my friends *points to friends*
Me: "You're boring me, I'm going to walk around"
HB 7.5: says something that really doesnt matter, or I dont remember
*I go looking for sets to run, no sets, come back 5 mins later*
Me : "You're STILL here?"
HB 7.5 : "Yup"
Me : ""You don't have anything better to do?"
HB 7.5 : "Nope"
Me: "You're boring me, other than your looks what do you have going on for you?"
HB 7.5: "All this *points to her body*"
Me: "We've acknowledged your beauty, I said OTHER THAN your looks what do you have going on for yourself? We're in Texas, beauty is common"
HB 7.5 : "Well I go school, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda"
Me: Okay your boring me, I'm leaving"
HB 7.5 promptly "boxes me out" basketball style SHUT DOWN
****NO IDEA WHY I SAID THAT, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHERE TO GO***

The Ugly
I got shut down twice, and one was pretty bad, the other one wasn't bad, but it was a lesson.

*At the bar and there was a 40th birthday party going on, with a life-size poster of Edward Cullen (from Twilight) I walk behind a HB8 surrounded by 2 other HB8

Me: (over the shoulder) *tap her real quick* "Do you think I have a shot with Edward?"
HB 8: "What?"
Me : "Edward, from Twilight, he's over there"
HB 8 : *looks at me like I'm crazy*
Me: "What would you say to get a guy like that?"
HB 8: "What?? Nice meeting you" *taps me on shoulder as she turns away* BOOM BLOWOUT SON!!!

Fuck it, didn't phase me, on to the next set. I could hear Mystery in the back of my head "STICK TO THE MATERIAL!"

The second one went like this

*Drunk HB 4 bumps into me*
Me : Excuse me I'm walking here (smiling)
HB5 (her friend) : YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE RUDE ASSHOLE
Me, to HB4 who bumped into me "Is she always like this? How do you go out with her?"
HB5 : "OH YEAH YOU JUST GO ON LIVING LIFE, YOUR A GREAT GUY, JUST GO ON LIVING LIFE"
BOOM BLOWOUT SON! They all leave.

Overall

Overall , it was a fucking blast , even getting blown up like that. I would have loved to had to had more success, but it was a learning experience.

Questions

1) I never really picked a target, I don't want to overly scope out the set cuz I don't want them to catch me checking them out-- tips?

2) What are your thoughts on my bolded interactions? (Mostly the bad ones)

3) Why am I not building attraction, or am I, but am I not noticing it?

4) What do I do if a bitch just starts talking too damn much?

5) How can I better streamline my approach?

Thank you in advance!

[SaladSpoon]

Roofie at A3. checkmate.

[Sizzle]

So no legitimate feedback from anyone?

[Tribulus1000]

Questions

1) I never really picked a target, I don't want to overly scope out the set cuz I don't want them to catch me checking them out-- tips?

2) What are your thoughts on my bolded interactions? (Mostly the bad ones)

3) Why am I not building attraction, or am I, but am I not noticing it?

4) What do I do if a bitch just starts talking too damn much?

5) How can I better streamline my approach?

Thank you in advance!

1. Picking a target is very important. Once you pick one, you can also make it clear to the other girls that you're interested in a certain girl. If they know this, most of the time they will take the hint unless they don't like you (probably won't happen for you).
You'll want to announce this by saying "who's your friend?" And tell the friend that she's a good friend. Frame her as a good friend. Say things like "She's a good friend, I can see why you guys hang out."
In this way, you make your intention clear. After you have done this, don't switch targets but instead focus on your target.
Alot of times, the target will take care of her friend or the group. You won't have to do anything. Isn't that nice?

If you ever start to get the other girls cockblocking, its because they don't like you so work on groups and group theory. If its not a problem, don't fix it.

I know Mystery says to run the whole group. This is alot of work.

2. Your sets. Well, its your first night out. I was reading the stuff you bolded above and its ok. The problem with the sets is that you have no followthrough.
The girl buys you a drink and you don't write about what you did next. You do a good opener (KeSha Opener) and you don't follow it up with anything. You tell a girl she's boring you 5 times.

Do you live in the area? Let's get together for coffee and I'll show you some cool stuff.

In general, you need some A2 material at least. Some sexual framing would help you immensely.

- Study Juggler's Forcing IOI's Post. Try baitng girls to do what you want. "You should give me a back rub now." or "What's it like standing next to a really *hot* guy?"
- Memorize: "You have a good girl face but you make bad girl mannerisms."
- Memorize Strawberry Fields and Rings on Fingers by Captain Jack PUA. http://www.betheseducer.com.
- "My friend gave me the biggest compliment the other day. We were at lunch and she told me that I was good at keeping secrets and that I was so non judgemental. I said 'really? I'm a guy, we're all like that.' She said no. Guys are the worst.... but.... you're cool and I can trust you."

Some comments:
Girls are not bitches or Fat Bitch #2 or whatever. You're not helping yourself by believing in bitches. They can act bitchy but its mostly an act.

Frame things to where YOU WIN. K?
Girls are interested in me. Period.

3. Why are you not noticing attraction? Well, its new to you.

Have you ever noticed when a homeless guy is about to ask you for money? Or have you ever noticed when you just know someone is going to cut in front of you in traffic?

If you can know that, you CAN know attraction. Its the same process or similar.

Again....
- Read Juggler's Forcing IOI's post.
- Learn some playful teases and calibrate to what you see.

Most of all, SLOW DOWN. Rome wasn't built in a day.

Try doing some NLP. Slow the world down in your mind. Slow down your sarges so you see, hear and feel everyyhing. Its called time distortion and you can google- "NLP Time Distortion".

4. A bitch? Don't call them bitches. Also, if you feel angst or hate towards them, get it out of your head. try hypnosis. http://www.hypnosisdownloads.com. Finds something appropriate.
....

So if a Bitch starts talking, then let that bitch talk....because once a bitch is speaking, you want her to keep it up. LOL.

Say "Wow. that's awesome tell me more."

And that bitch will yap on and on.

The thing about her yapping is that you can agree with her and she can agree with you. And then the two of you can agree to fuck eachother. Capice?

- Use their talk to bulld Agreements or Yes Ladders. Then say something like "Wow. You're amazing. I really enjoy talking to you. We should get together for coffee. Sunday at 2pm"

5. Streamlining the Approach...

- Pick target.
- Open set with canned or situational opener.
- Do a small tease such as "Didn't I see you dancing like Elaine from Seinfeld?"
- Say "You seem interesting...." bait...."the fingers people wear their rings on tells alot about their personalities."
- Run some kind of sexual framing routine.
- fluff, build agreement, yes'es.
- Build a timebridge, phone # exchange, day2
- Keep going. Talk about movies or music.
- Give her an SOI. (also Juggler) Something like "If all these people weren't here...." bait "I'd take you on the table."
- Do a pull statement. "You said you liked R.E.M. I have a DVD of them at my house. Let's watch it. I'm not ready for the night to end"
If she goes, you're good.
- Walk her to her car and tell her you're not ready for the night to end. Where's the after party? Can she drive you home? etc.
- Get back to your /her place and pull the trigger.

You're welcome.

[Sizzle]

Great advice, I'm sending you a PM for possible wings.