FR: 2 different HBs cancel date at last minute... need input

[Elsewhere]

HB8:
Met her at work. (She works in another department so I'm not worried about work issues).
I caught her making IOI's on several occasions so I asked her out and proposed some fun things to do. She was excited and accepted my date without hesitation.

The day of the date. She cancels. I suggested we postpone to another day and decided that I would not call but would let her call me. No call.


HB8:
Receptionist at Dr's office. I caught her making eyes at me and saw other IOI's, so I opened her and she ended up accepting a date for New Years eve.

That evening she texted to cancel.

I wanted to do some experiments and see what would happen if a week later I texted her and asked her out again. (I know, not standard PUA strategy). She accepted another date. She canceled that one too on the day of the date.


Can anyone provide any thoughts about what I might be doing wrong?

[Gamble]

It's a shit test and a lot of girls do this. Let em know that you'll let it slide once and that you'll give em a chance to make it up to you, but don't patronize their bad dating etiquette.

And it is perfectly fine to wait a few days and give em a call to arrange another date. Use it as a form of slight punishment since they're not getting the pleasure of talking to you.

[Tribulus1000]

HB8:
Met her at work. (She works in another department so I'm not worried about work issues).
I caught her making IOI's on several occasions so I asked her out and proposed some fun things to do. She was excited and accepted my date without hesitation.

The day of the date. She cancels. I suggested we postpone to another day and decided that I would not call but would let her call me. No call.


HB8:
Receptionist at Dr's office. I caught her making eyes at me and saw other IOI's, so I opened her and she ended up accepting a date for New Years eve.

That evening she texted to cancel.

I wanted to do some experiments and see what would happen if a week later I texted her and asked her out again. (I know, not standard PUA strategy). She accepted another date. She canceled that one too on the day of the date.


Can anyone provide any thoughts about what I might be doing wrong?

You did nothing wrong. And its not a shit test.

This is the way women are and if you've got sister or have any experience with women at all, you know this.
Girls flake all the time. They can flake because they're on their period or can flake because it suddenly gets cold or they can always flake because they don't feel "pretty" or "attractive" and they can always flake because they just don't feel like dating you.
As men, we don't get the concept of "not feeling pretty". But to a woman, this is big.

And we take things really hard. Our egos are hurt by the games these girls are playing. But when you stop and really think about it, its not really about you anyway most of the time.

If there was something wrong that you did, just go back into your memory of how you met these two girls and figure out how you would do it differently.
Use your imagination to put things right, adopt contingencies and what-would-you-do-if scenarios.

What I've described above is THE ONLY way anyone gets better in this process of meeting, attracting and closing women.

T

[Scoundrel]

From what I've seen, a chick will often make a plan, but change things if something better comes up. For example, she doesn't want to be sitting home alone on a Sat night. So, she makes a date with guy 1 on Wed. But, guy 2 calls her Sat afternoon. She's had a crush on guy 2 for a while. So, she flakes on guy 1.

She's going to do whatever will be the most fun. You have to be more fun than any of her other options. Then she'll flake on other guys to be with you.

[the_devil]

What helps me is deliberatly misinterpret the situation to be in your favor. What I mean is you have to in no way take it personally even though you may be responsible for not being direct enough, not getting enough report etc. She must be sick, her fuckin mom must have died, something dire because there is no way any girl would blow you off because you are just that awesome. That helps me keep my sanity.

Then I would get more dates. Then you could give a shit if one flakes.

Both situations sound like you are waiting for IOIs then running game, and the nature of gaming that way is risky in itself. It may be a stretch but you may be waiting for the right moment ect. which never gets you what you want. You have to make it happen even without the IOIs. I don't know about you but I only have about 10,000 days of life before I have deemed it too old to do it this way. You gotta make that shit count. Open girls who arent giving IOIs.

Take what I say with a grain of salt, I am for the first time sleeping with more than one girl, and more than one time.

[Scoundrel]

The best way I've found of dealing with a flake is to let her know that her flaking is the best thing that could've happened FOR YOU and that she's being very rude. I learned this from Herbal, when she flakes tell her "no problem." Tell her you had an old friend call and SHE wanted to take YOU out for dinner and drinks, but you didn't want to be rude by flaking on her at the last minute. Tell her the two of you can get together when you both have more time.

This let's her know that you're a man of high value. There is at least one woman that's willing to PAY to spend time with you. It also let's her know that you won't be sitting home watching the TV. You have a date and will likely have sex too. It also let's her know what she did was rude without you getting bent out of shape about it.

I don't generally suggest lying to women about anything. However, this is a special case.

[Mojo]

Hey fellas, please precede the thread title with FR, FR+, LR, BJR, etc to indicate the type of Field Report. Thanks!

[Balltacular]

Or you can cancel on her before she cancels on you. If you two set a date, already know in your head that you won't go on it right away. Say you set a date for Friday night. Friday afternoon comes around, say something really important came up and you can't make it that night. Tell her you'll make it up to her next time. Tell her you'll get back to her next week to set something up. Say sorry and be nice about it. Keep in contact for the next week, but don't bring up canceling or setting up another date unless she does. Two weeks later, ask her if she's free to get together. This time don't cancel; or cancel again

Thoughts?