Dallas PUA

I've gotten rusty over the past couple of months, so I dove right back in last night, and here's my first story from my dive back into the deep end:

I walk into the pub with the radar always on.

Immediately I spot a four set - four beautiful girls. I pivot on my heel, stroll by their table. One of the girls looks up and makes eye contact with me. I hold it as I continue to walk. We're connected for some six seconds, then I break and meet up with my friends in a rear room.

Fifteen minutes later, I stride back into the front room. I walk right up to the girls' table, make calm eye contact with the girl as I approach, and as SOON as I'm there, I open:

"You are really cute."

The girls erupt in giggles. The beautiful girl with the confident eye contact is wearing the cutest coraline starfish earrings. These things are huge, like they were plucked from outer space.

"I've got to get back to my friends, but can I sit with you for just a minute?" Giggles and yeses all around.

We talk about love, life, swimming lessons - the conversation couldn't be more chill.

After ten minutes or so, I look at Starfish. "I've got to go."

"Ok."

"I'm going to call you."

"What if I call you?" she says. That's not my ideal response, but every pickup is practice in producing success and rolling with rejection, so I'm cool. Plus, I've had enough girls give me this response out of reflex.. but then follow up with a phone call.. that even if I was terribly attached to the outcome, it's got promise.

So I say sure, and give her my number.

She smiles sheepishly. "And I can't remember... what's your name?"

I smile. "No worries. I don't remember you either. I was just going to call you Starfish." (She told me her name again, and I forgot it again.)

I get back to my friends, make another few practice approaches, make some non-Game business contacts with a few people...

Then on my way leaving the pub, I stop by Starfish for the final time. I kneel by her.

"Hey."

"Hey."

"I'm about to leave. And I'm really sad."

"Oh..? Why?"

"Because I need a kiss."

And IMMEDIATELY one of her friends at the table LEAPS into action and says, "SHE HAS A BOYFRIEND!!!."

I smile and roll with it. "I didn't ask about that."

The whole table goes "OOOOOOOO" like I just told a "Yo momma's so fat" joke...

I reconnect with Starfish. "You've misunderstood me entirely."

"Have I?"

"Yes. I want a kiss."

"Which is..."

"A thimble." SMILE. I stand to leave.

"I'm going to call you," she says, and I can tell, she means it.

"You should do that," I say. I give all of her friends a genuine farewell, then head off.

My summary.. Probably won't get a call back. Thrilled with the audacity of my approach. I like that I rolled with the rejection, but I HATE that I gave the impression I don't care if she has a boyfriend. That's a dealbreaker in my book, for a long, long list of reasons I'll go into some other time...

Lucid wrote:I've gotten rusty over the past couple of months, so I dove right back in last night, and here's my first story from my dive back into the deep end:

I walk into the pub with the radar always on.

Immediately I spot a four set - four beautiful girls. I pivot on my heel, stroll by their table. One of the girls looks up and makes eye contact with me. I hold it as I continue to walk. We're connected for some six seconds, then I break and meet up with my friends in a rear room.

Fifteen minutes later, I stride back into the front room. I walk right up to the girls' table, make calm eye contact with the girl as I approach, and as SOON as I'm there, I open:

"You are really cute."

The girls erupt in giggles. The beautiful girl with the confident eye contact is wearing the cutest coraline starfish earrings. These things are huge, like they were plucked from outer space.

"I've got to get back to my friends, but can I sit with you for just a minute?" Giggles and yeses all around.

We talk about love, life, swimming lessons - the conversation couldn't be more chill.

After ten minutes or so, I look at Starfish. "I've got to go."

"Ok."

"I'm going to call you."

"What if I call you?" she says. That's not my ideal response, but every pickup is practice in producing success and rolling with rejection, so I'm cool. Plus, I've had enough girls give me this response out of reflex.. but then follow up with a phone call.. that even if I was terribly attached to the outcome, it's got promise.

So I say sure, and give her my number.

She smiles sheepishly. "And I can't remember... what's your name?"

I smile. "No worries. I don't remember you either. I was just going to call you Starfish." (She told me her name again, and I forgot it again.)

I get back to my friends, make another few practice approaches, make some non-Game business contacts with a few people...

Then on my way leaving the pub, I stop by Starfish for the final time. I kneel by her.

"Hey."

"Hey."

"I'm about to leave. And I'm really sad."

"Oh..? Why?"

"Because I need a kiss."

And IMMEDIATELY one of her friends at the table LEAPS into action and says, "SHE HAS A BOYFRIEND!!!."

I smile and roll with it. "I didn't ask about that."

The whole table goes "OOOOOOOO" like I just told a "Yo momma's so fat" joke...

I reconnect with Starfish. "You've misunderstood me entirely."

"Have I?"

"Yes. I want a kiss."

"Which is..."

"A thimble." SMILE. I stand to leave.

"I'm going to call you," she says, and I can tell, she means it.

"You should do that," I say. I give all of her friends a genuine farewell, then head off.

My summary.. Probably won't get a call back. Thrilled with the audacity of my approach. I like that I rolled with the rejection, but I HATE that I gave the impression I don't care if she has a boyfriend. That's a dealbreaker in my book, for a long, long list of reasons I'll go into some other time...

Props on a direct approach. Sounds like it worked.

I'll just give a little feedback which I hope helps...

You got the eyes Bro! Your radar was up. You walk in the bar and you know what's going on.

Your open was fine. Sounds like you got some rapport going and talking about stuff.

I hope that "I gotta go now" was a false-time constrait - otherwise it doesn't help to keep leaving and then reapproaching especially with a four set.

The false time constrait is useful because leaves them wanting you to stay. Its like a takeaway, but you're not actually leaving.

I hope you did some Group Theory with this one. Otherwise, you get cockblocked.
Sometimes the other girls won't cockblock if its obvious both of you like eachother.
Direct makes this clear. You want Starfish so the others kinda back off. I've witnessed this. I think it has something to do with social violation.

The other thing you get is jealousy and feeling left out. Very common with 2 sets. With a four set, this is less common.

The most important thing you need to do after befriending everyone is isolate.

Use an isolation statement.
"Hey I want to introduce you to a friend of mine. Come on." And LEAD her away. You don't actually have to have someone there to introduce.

Another way to isolate is to say "Wow...swimming lessons. Promise to tell me all about it." and when she says "ok", you just say "Ok let's go over here so you can tell me all about swimming." I call this my promise tactic.

Isolate.

Go to a more comfortable location.

Once you're on you own, away from the friends, a kiss is easier. In fact, you can even kiss her on the way back to join her friends.

Hope this helps.

at least you know how everything works man! I really liked the direct stuff...it seemed like a very natural gaming approach.

Tribulus mentioned them above, but these are just a few things that stood out to me:

1) possible insufficient effort on winning the group over?

-the ramifications are obvious in smaller sets, but I think this hindered your success in this particular set. It seems that you were only talking to the target here...I would imagine that this could get annoying to her friends who are getting zero attention and secretly wanting her friend (your target) to have as miserable of time as they are...especially since she already has a bf. (I couldn't tell if the 10 minute talk included them much)

2) too direct with target?

-this may seem like an alteration of the sentence above, but that is not my meaning here. I'm trying to elude to your sole and continuous directness with the target and her resultant feelings. Was there enough push/pull?..did you let her miss your company?...did she feel that you were a quality male? (demonstrate this by interaction w/in the venue?)

3) lack of isolation?

-Women, whether taken, spoken for, married, in wed-lock, engaged, etc, are more prone to drop their defense mechanisms if they have no one in direct need of justification of their sluttiness (i.e. kissing a random guy at a bar when she has a bf) and having to explain this to her catty, judgemental friends. It seems like you might have owned this one if isolation would have been successful.