Last Night at Finn

[grimm1111]

Here is how I number closed the hottest girl at Finn last night, which was the first and only set of the night. Not perfectly played, but anyone who knows me can see the progress in my game. Hard work and field time is beginning to pay off.

This is a detailed report as I didn't drink.


Juju opens the set "hey what do you think of my friend's hair, we think he should do x with it and make it more rockstar, (or something like that)"

I come in and play it perfectly in the beginning. Hold eye contact with the target "I already am a fucking rock star cause i'm on the stage right now, look at all the attention." Sly grin that Kit taught me.

Target: "Where are you from?" The question caught me by surprise, I wasn't sure if it was a screen or just a polite question. "Why does that have to do with my hair?"

Kit - "he's from S"

blah blah blah some people talk



Then for some reason Kit and Juju eject. I say to both girls "Actually I used to have a blue streak in my hair... (run fingers thru my hair, and by the way this story is bullshit) ...but i'd be out in bars like this and people used to think i was a drug dealer. girls used to come up to me like "hey, do you have any drugs?"

(as I say that go up and 'pretend drunk hug' the girls in a creepy sexual way at the same time. I can see them slightly uncomfortable in their eyes so i sad this)

... "and they said it in a creepy sexual way just like that. (immediate IOI's.) I was like, 'am i the kind of guy who wants that? Probably not.' (more IOI's and I roll off/ lock in the set toward the bar) And so I don't have that blue streak anymore and fuck what they all say."

Then my target followed me to where I had locked in completely mesmerized, the obstacle took off for the bathroom but yelled into her friends ear "THAT WAS A LINE!" (it was. check out cajun on 'Keys to the VIP' on You Tube).

Target to me, doesn't even acknowledge her friend who leaves, which is a first. "where are you from?" all aggressive/ little sister whiney like and feisty to me.

Me "Fine (roll eyes as i would handle my own little sister in real life), I'm from S. I've lived in XYZ places. now tell me."

My target talked a mile a minute about whatever she could offer on the topic of my hair, BT very high, but in the end she decided that i was confident enough to have my hair however the fuck i want which i happen to agree with lol.



I go on to A3 (skipped A2 routines because i had so much attraction already) qualify her on her traveling (she is a promotional model, which means she has traveled the world extensively), on her cooking ability, etc etc which I get through very quickly. She is very very in to me and eager to qualify herself. She's literally almost jumping at times at the chance to prove how great she is at this and that.

I think I made a mistake in A3 that while she was eager to qualify herself, I think my compliments were under-calibrated. I really think I could have layed it on much thicker here in retrospect, and had a more genuine attraction. Damn. I guess that calibration will come with more experience.

***One very interesting note about this particular pickup, and I defer to the more experienced PUA's for their advice on this because it's interesting to me - I got to qualification right after the opener just about. I got through qualification extremely quickly with no resistance/shit tests/ anything. However I couldn't kino escalate to match the progress I was making via the emotional progression model, because I would get the muscle tension in her and they would creep eyecode to me which i had to adjust for or I would have blown out. it seems like there isn't really a link at all between where you are on the Emotional Progression Model and where you are in terms of kino in some cases, and it was quite unusual to be in rapport with a girl who i hadn't kissed yet.

I had some trouble kino escalating, which I now see what I did wrong. I should have used more push-pull.

Now the obstacle comes back, and is kind of the 'odd man out' because my target is ignoring her. While I relish the novelty, having had numerous targets pulled away to "dance" by bored obstacle friends in the past, I know that I must entertain her. Me to target "introduce me to your friend, it's polite." Target looks annoyed, but complies.

obstacle, slightly uncomfortable: "we met already"

me, super friendly shooting for friend zone mode "yeah, but i wanted to meet you again. hi i'm peter (big friendly smile, friendly warm handshake which melts her cold stoney heart lol). then my target has to go to the bathroom and i'm left with the obstacle for the duration of this conversation.

ME "is that a tattoo on your forehead?"

GIRL "no it's a scar, i fell blah blah"

ME "oh, i'm sorry to hear that. i wouldn't have brought it up but i think it looks really beautiful. it gives you a lot of character, very exotic."

GIRL "thanks, i hate it though, i'm getting plastic surgery on it. i need a drink."

ME "oh, i'm so sorry. so listen, i'm in to your friend, and she's in to me. Are you cool with that?"

GIRL "YEAH!!!!" lightens up at how easy that was, almost like she was just handed free money or something.

ME "so you're gonna help us out OK? you're gonna be my backup"

GIRL "YEAH I'LL DO THAT!!!"

then my target comes back, but acknowedges her friend not me. i reopen with some fluff, meanwhile my new wing-girl gets us some chairs. then i think Kit comes back to take care of the obstacle and we're now in our own little world.


Blah blah blah, i'm leaving out a lot of conversation. Kit must have ejected at some point, because all of the sudden he comes up from the other side and whispers in my ear "GET MORE KINO, YOU STUPID FUCKER, YOU'RE FUCKING IN!!" hhahahahar. and damn he was right. We adjust to where we're sitting with our legs touching, my left hand is holding her right hand with my left on top and she is squeezing back, my right hand is on her knee and her legs are crossed toward me. I tried to escalate further but she would pull back, after which I would pull back, then reinitiate.

I want to get a kiss close at this point, cause i got kino on my mind. I try to get there via qualifying. "So, on a scale of 1 to 10, how good of a kisser are you"

HB - laughs. "uhhhh, a 4..."

Me - (this is the first compliance/qualifyer she has failed, and i am stunned for a second.) That sucks, I don't know if I can talk to you anymore. where did my buddy go, he just walked by here. no i guess you're cool."

blah blah blah. regular qualifying on non-sexual stuff. then i hit her with, "i'm glad i met you. you're awesome. blah."

I try another angle.

"so what do you look for in a guy?"

HB - loves the question. "umm, ok he has to be really smart, outgoing, blah blah"

Me - "what's your take on me?"

HB - I think I'm really bad for you, I think I'd hurt you.

ME - I think you've got it mixed up. I think i'm the one who'd be toxic for you.

HB - laughs "oh you have NOOOO idea, i would FUCK YOU UP boy. I really like you, but I want someone who sees what they want and just takes it."

ME - You know what? I like you, and I know you like me too. So you should just admit it.

HB - You gotta be careful there, or I'll have to... (eyecode for 'leave').

ME - OK i'm taking what I want girl. (go for a kiss, she gives me the turnaway)

ME - You know I don't believe you.

HB - "I wasn't talking about physical closeness, we could do that any time. I mean You've been very PC

You're close! You're SOOO close! And you'll make it to my inner circle cause of tonight, I mean you got in here and you got me talking for all this time. We'll have fun, I mean we'll have fun. But you won't make it to my inner inner circle (points at her pussy) because... (trails off)

And I don't want to hurt you. I'll be with you but when the next guy comes along...

I like you. I like you, I like you, I like you. Peter Peter Peter Peter Peter I could say your name 50 times I love it. I've met YOU, 50 times before. Who ARE YOU? I want to meet a guy who's REAL, who isn't afraid to be REAL.

Besides, I never wanted to meet a guy at a BAR...

ME - (sensing she's asking me for more comfort/rapport) We'll have to make up another story about how we met, it's cool. OK look, I am who I am, and I'm not gonna apologize for it. But I understand that we don't KNOW each other. What I see when I look around this bar isn't the same person over and over, I try to look for potential. Sometimes you have to dig a little bit, girl. What if the right guy just happens along, and you're too 'on the surface' to even recognize it and it passes you by? You have to be willing to dig."

HB - "yeah." eye code: 'YOU ARE FUCKING HOT, I LOVE YOU."

Me - go for kiss. she turns her cheek again.

Me - immediately change topic and run some rapport stories. We get some real rapport going. and I can read her like a book at this point. I go for kiss again, once again denied, although i can tell she fucking wants to.

Me - I know you're fucking lying to yourself. I can see it on your eyes, you like me. You don't have to admit it to me, but you should at least admit it to yourself. I know we don't KNOW each other that well, that comes over time. And I'll tell you one thing, I'm NOT taking you home with me tonight (she laughs, offended). I AM taking you out this week and we'll see how it goes, that's how it is.

HB - No.

Me - I know you're fucking lying to yourself. I can so tell. You should admit to yourself that you like me, because that's messed up. You've been hurt before (she's right out of a relationship) and you're trying to protect yourself, but you like me.


HB - nods, looking at ground. "You're right. If you fucking hurt me, I will kick your ass so bad and fuck you up so bad and fucking kill you. (yikes...)"

ME - "It's OK sweetie. You could just have said that instead of pretending that you were gonna be the one to hurt me. See, I can tell about you.

HB - nods, looks mesmerized but emotional

Me - go for kiss close, denied again.

Me - so what's up?

HB - I'm more interested in my friend right now, do you know those guys? (guys trying to pick up her friend, who i guess had been alone for some time but in the heat of things i forgot about her. FUCKING 2 SETS!!!! ARG!)

blah blah blah. The two of them go to the bathroom. My target looks me in the eyes and says "wait here, I'll be back"

The PUA in me says "I gotta go check on my buddy, but I'll come find you."

I walk around, find Kit, talk a sec, then reopen the set. My target is cold toward me, but somehow has gotten herself really hammered drunk in the past 10 minutes. Then, all the sudden, I get massive kino. We hit the dance floor, and she gives me a grind. Then I sit and she gives me a lap dance. I kino escalate past the point of the kiss close, (neck kissing, biting, grabbing tits, etc) but never actually get that kiss close because she keeps denying me, although I try like 4 more times. She pulls out HER phone, and we exchange numbers. Her friend literally pulls her out of there by the arm.

Luckily I got myself her number. I'm worried about the flake though. I think it got a little TOO hot and heavy and there will sure be some buyers remorse. But we shall see.

-Peter

[Kit]

Actually you missed part of it. The first thing I said to her, I got in her face a bit and said, "You are asking him the wrong question." Then she further DHVed you by saying, "no, no, I'm asking him... where are you from?"

I think later JuJu or myself may have mentioned S but I am not sure.

Shit dude, seriously well written and sincere FR. 5 Stars! I want this girl so bad man. She is HOT the way she played you. That's the irony of this. That was probably her natural game and she played it the way we need to be playing it. Women fucking rule. We need to learn from them, the hot girls that we cannot seem to get our hands on.

I'll say one thing too. I don't know how much of your game comes into play. The very second we walked up she took one close look at you and went all googly eyed. I have never seen a woman look at a man that way so fast.

She was Smoking too. A 9 to 10 for sure and by my taste possibly the hottest girl in the place that night. I bet some guys on here know who you are talking about.

[grimm1111]

You did. But you're right, that's how it happened.

[grimm1111]

i left out some other details as well. like how when i reopened the set, remember there were those guys talking to her, and the second i got back in there my wing-girl blew them out for me and gave me a seat.

LOL!

[quipster]

Seems like you were in set for a while.

Try to role play with her.
Do future projections with her.
Doing these kino kino kino

jealousy plots, more push/pull,
move her around a little more maybe.

Good job.

[playercool]

Things you did wrong:

When she basically said quit being PC and take what you want. You instantly tried to kiss her. She wanted you to do just that. You jumped through her hoop.

I hear you run some canned stuff. Please start doing this if you are looking to KClose.

Grimm: Do you want to kiss me?

That way if she says no you have a way out. I certainly hope when she turned her cheek you didn't kiss the cheek. Please tell me you didn't kiss the cheek.

I use both that line and. You should give me a little kiss.

It sounds like some of your kino is maybe a little over the top creepy? Start with some super duper light kino. Touch her elbow. Or when you say something to her use the back of your hand(not your palm) and touch her stomach. Just ever so lightly while you are delivering your speech. Just for a mili second.

Find a line that you can give her the shoulder hug. Only do it for a second though when you do it.

I hate to say this but 99% chance this number flakes. I know that sucks but just my hunch.

Nice FR though. Sounds like you did a lot of stuff very well. Your one of the few guys who writes up a lot of FR's. More people should do them ecspecially newbies. It really helps to incorporate stuff into your head. And it is nice to have a timeline of how your game progressed.

[grimm1111]

Q,

I was in the set about 2 hours, kit might be better able to tell you. Awesome advice, I'll be sure to add these things to my rapport building next time. Live and learn man.


Player,

No creepy kino here. I'm mister PC, but working on it. Check out the "youtube" vid of cajun and you'll see how that routine goes.

All the heavy kino at the end was actually initiated by my target. Actually, so was the hand holding, and i went in to kiss her because she squared her face to mine, came in like 80% to where we were almost kissing anyway, started "triangulating" with her eyes-mouth-eyes-mouth, even licking her lip. it was her game. then i tried to kiss her and she'd turn away last minute and smile. She was a spicy latina sexbomb who was toying with me a little bit. But yeah i also bet she flakes.

Are you talking about "the claw?" lol. I've gotta try out the claw.

[juju]

She was cute!

Personally, I think it was my running my fingers thru your hair that spiked her BT...

I ejected cause I was leaving after opening as planned. Kit did not eject but the obstacle started texting so she kept herself busy....we had our eye on her just in case... until we opened another set.

You did great! I tend to agree with Kit though.. not sure how much game was needed here... she was into you. You da man!

[Vector]

My take on it is there was a conflict between the relationship/potential boyfriend frame and the casual hookup frame.

Some of the words you were using seemed to suggest screening for a potential relationship: "so what do you look for in a guy?" which I think will be interpreted as, what do you want in a boyfriend/husband, presumably so you can compare yourself to that.

Boyfriends are complicated and are a much bigger investment than just casual sex, and a lot of women are perfectly okay with hookups but will actively avoid relationships.

I think in this case she wanted to specifically disqualify the potential boyfriend role:

Me - "what's your take on me?"

HB - I think I'm really bad for you, I think I'd hurt you.

She doesn't want to be tied down. Right now she doesn't want to be on a path that leads toward exclusivity.

Later on she is even more specific:

And I don't want to hurt you. I'll be with you but when the next guy comes along...

And then eventually:

I AM taking you out this week and we'll see how it goes, that's how it is.

HB - No.

I would translate this as, you're trying for the traditional "dating" frame where you go out and after the Nth date, you have sex. But she's not having any of it because she needs to be able to walk at any time, and not have an ex-boyfriend who tries to cling to her. It's easier to avoid the situation in the first place rather than try to get rid of a guy who thinks "we had something" just because we had sex.

I think in this case what she needed to hear was something that would calm that fear specifically. Something like how you're not boyfriend material. Or that you just got out of a relationship and you're not looking to have a girlfriend just yet. Or perhaps tell a story that conveys how you understand how awful it is to have clingy guys, and implies how you won't do that.

[Kit]

Personally, I think it was my running my fingers thru your hair that spiked her BT...

That was very smooth. You're quite good at opening with a sense of comfort.