Fist number close in 4 months

[jast]

I have been out of the game for awhile and I have not really done any approaches and much less try to get any numbers.

I go to a star bucks during my lunch, every one knows me there I am friends with some of the guys who work there " that’s how you get free stuff ". I few weeks ago a new girl started working there and she caught my eye. Nice athletic body, light red hair. So I started to game her some, 5 min here 15 min there I always got a good vibe from her.

This Saturday 3 friends and I were going to go ride our motorcycles around. We usually meet up at the star bucks by my work and this weekend I was early and the star buck’s girl was there (SBG)

Her: What are you doing up here
Me: My and my friends are going riding
Her: riding what?
Me: (I point to my bike out the window) Motorcycles

Her: Wow I have never been on a bike
Me: Really…….

BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA
I get my drink and bas while I wait.

I get a text from my boys they are at the gas station ready to go.

Me: I out of her see you later
Her: Have fun
Me: Give me your number and I will take you out some time
Her: ok (gives number)

(I remember you get better answer rates if you talk to them after you get the number)
Me: want to come out and sit on it
Her: I will drop it
Me: It’s not that heavy it’s not like you are benching it
Her: I am going to take a beck real quick.

We go out

Me: get on
Her: I am going to drop it
Me: come on I am holding

She gets on I put my helmet on her and let her start it up

Her: wow I would hurt my self
Me: don’t worries we well lay out a bunch of mattress for you and give you a special helmet with a light so every one can see you.
Her: LOL

Her: I should get back in
Me: ok later

I am going to call her today after work to set some thing up Wednesday. She works at a Starbucks and that’s usually were I take girls any other suggestions?

[jast]

Up date: How should I play this?

On Monday I send the SBG a text

Me: Are you free or are you still working for the coffee goddess?
Her: HAHAHA No I am waiting to get my hair done
Me: Getting your hair done that is the classic blow of you can do better then that, but then again you will miss out on all the fun.
Her: LOL no really I am her waiting to get it cut
Me: That sounds really dull,

I figured if she was waiting I would call her so I did I got no answer so I left her a message.

Me: I guess you getting your hair cut now and are talking to the hair dress about what ever girls talk about. Go ahead and give me a call talk to you later.

I get a text later at 11:00pm from her
Her: Sorry. I am trying to finish an assignment due at midnight can I call you tom? (I figured tom = tomorrow I was going to bust on her for the miss spelling but I let it go)

I texted her back at around 11:00 the next day.
Me: Sure I have some free time after 6 before I have to be in class.

I never hear anything from her and to day when I went to get my coffee she was working.
Her: Hi jast (smiling)
Me: what’s up SGB (smiling?)
Her: the normal
Me: yes

They were pretty busy so no time to really talk to her. I sat back and talked to one of the other girls I know for a few min while we waited for our drinks. I got my drink a few mins later and started walking out and SBG said later to me.

I am not sure how to play this. I usually try and get a girl on the phone twice if that’s a no go I next her. Give me some direction on how to play this guys?

[Kit]

That's a tough one. I wonder if she feels a bit uncomfortable because she sees you so often and knows your friends? Or maybe you're going a little too AFC on her?

I'd be curious to see what some of the pros here have to say. It sounds like it's gone downhill.

When she said she was getting her hair done you should have said something more playful back or negged her. You could said something like, "Go purple, it will fit your playful personality." Instead you went all AFC as if she was blowing you off even though you were kidding it's not a good approach.

Also you told her that getting her hair done seemed really dull. I guess this is your negging but it's not very creative. When you are texting, take your time and think through it. You will never have a better opportunity to think about what you say. After she didn't respond you called her and you called her when she already told you she was busy.

You didn't share what you left on the voice mail so I guess it was pretty AFC.

When she took her break it was the perfect chance to take her for a ride. Texas doesn't have a helmet law anymore right? Just drive her around in a safe area and let her hair blow in the wind while she hangs on tightly to you.

I guess what I am saying is always think like a bit of a bad boy. Don't be afraid to break some rules. I mean she took a break to go outside with you so she is willing to push the edge. You need to see how far she is willing to push it and then make sure to take her a little further with persuasion so that she thinks you're wild and fun with an edge to you.

I'd say the only hope of fixing this is dropping the mamma's boy act and going bad boy on her. I'd go in looking really bad boy one day and say, "take your break, we're going for a ride." You have nothing to lose at this point. You can offer her your helmet or bring an extra.

[Bull Run]

It sounds like it's gone downhill.

I think it has. Calling her so soon was not the best choice. Keep texting! Women would much, much rather text than recieve a call. The only time I ever call a chick is to get directions to her house or to tell her where I'll be that night or some night in the future.

When she said she was getting her hair done you should have said something more playful back or negged her. You could said something like, "Go purple, it will fit your playful personality." Instead you went all AFC as if she was blowing you off even though you were kidding it's not a good approach.

EXACTLY! You went AFC. Always presume that she wants you, that she's after you, that she's trying to seduce you. Not the other way around. I would have said something like:

"U know getting ur haircut isn't going to get me in bed...I need comfort and rapport before I put out, not just a hot do"

The above did two things: 1) it made it sexual, it will get her thinking about sex 2) it was BOLD and POWERFUL, she's thinking who the fuck is this guy? 3) it sub-communicates that she's after you (presuming) 4) it's funny, now you're that fun, bold, powerful, sexual, confident guy!

When she took her break it was the perfect chance to take her for a ride. Texas doesn't have a helmet law anymore right? Just drive her around in a safe area and let her hair blow in the wind while she hangs on tightly to you.

What a great prop!!!! You successfully used it to get her outside...you should have continued to use it to get her on it. Remember girls live in a boring world, the world without YOU! Take her out of her reality, put her on the bike and inject some excitement into her life. SHE WILL LOVE YOU FOR IT!!!

I'd go in looking really bad boy one day and say, take your break, we're going for a ride. You have nothing to lose at this point.

Normally I'd say drop it. I don't believe in working THAT hard for my women. BUT, if you're hell bent on pulling her. Then I'd freeze her out for a while. You need to punish her for not returning your call. Let her work for your affection. Don't be an ass, just be indifferent.

If possible, start bringing other girls around.

Don't ever mention her not calling you back. Can you say AFC? Don't call her again. If she calls you, don't answer. Then sloooooooow text her (sterling can vouche for the virtues of sloooow texting). Give it a few hours to respond. You're a busy man remember?!?! Don't call her again until you've had a legitimate text string. GIRLS DON'T LIKE PHONE CALLS!!!! I'd try to set up a day2 via text, this way you never have to call her.

[jast]

I got to dependent on the out come and then went AFC: x

I use to go a little too far with the C&F so I was trying to tone it down a little but I just ended up going AFC… Reminds me of a saying I herd “You have to be whiling to lose the girl to get the girl”

Ok so plane is freeze out for awhile and then what I text her after like 5 days ?

[isosceles cheese]

fuck a stripper on your bike in the parking lot where she can see. This is the only way you can still lock her up.

[Kit]

fuck a stripper on your bike in the parking lot where she can see. This is the only way you can still lock her up.

Dude, don't write this shit while I have food in my mouth. Now I have to clean my computer screen again.

[isosceles cheese]

fuck a stripper on your bike in the parking lot where she can see. This is the only way you can still lock her up.

Dude, don't write this shit while I have food in my mouth. Now I have to clean my computer screen again.

that's the way I roll.

[Lion]

I got to dependent on the out come and then went AFC: x

I use to go a little too far with the C&F so I was trying to tone it down a little but I just ended up going AFC… Reminds me of a saying I herd “You have to be whiling to lose the girl to get the girl”

Ok so plane is freeze out for awhile and then what I text her after like 5 days ?

You never went too far with the cocky and funny. You need to turn it up a notch (or several). I would wait longer than 5 days if I were you. Up to 2 or 3 weeks. Then I would text something random like "I want some corn flakes, bring some over on your way" or text her a joke, or "Hey, you have something in your teeth". For gods sakes man don't call and don't go afc! She still might be salvagable. Make your appearances at starbucks erratic during this time.

Her: Sorry. I am trying to finish an assignment due at midnight can I call you tom? (I figured tom = tomorrow I was going to bust on her for the miss spelling but I let it go)

I would have said "I'm jast, not tom. No, don't call me tonight I'm kinda busy. I'll talk to you tomorrow if I have time=)".

[Kit]

that's the way I roll.

Can you change your avatar? Although it fits you well, that's just not right.