thrsday night black finn

[grimm1111]

So Web Hand, Knight Rose, Kit, and I went to Black Finn again tonight. First time probably ever out sarging on a Thursday, and I have to say it's not as cool as Fri or Saturday but that's I guess to be expected. Sets were few and far between, a lot of the girls there were with boyfriends and in general the whole energy level of the place was much more closed off and low state than normal.

Or maybe I just suck and I'm being a whiney bitch about it, who knows.

So I show up and I've got AA to begin with. In fact, of the guys that went out I opened the fewest sets. I didn't feel motivated to do it as much. I really only have two sets to report on.

First is a seated set way in the back corner of the outdoor patio. Knight Rose gets me motivated to go in because it's kind of an intimidating set to open logistically for a newbie like me. But OK, I go. Since they're in a corner, no regular indirect approach will work - it's obvious I'm going out of my way to talk to them. So I can either go direct - which I wasn't feeling - or devise something else. What we decided I should do is a cell phone opener. So I go up and get on my phone next to the girls, which makes sense because it's the quietest place in the venue. I pretend to talk for a minute. Then I open over my shoulder "hey, I need a girl's opinion on something" and they're like "sure," and I lock in by taking a seat with them. I run the Drunk "I love you's" opener. It hits pretty well. Where I fuck it up is I can catch myself "grasping for staws" at the end of A1, trying to keep the conversation moving when I dig for a cold read. I'm sure they picked up on it and it set off "needy pick up alarms"

I try to transition with a cold read "hey, are you two sisters? You look alike" and the uglier one is like "THANKS!" and the hot one kind of takes it as an insult, which is funny in retrospect. Anyway, no they weren't sisters.

I fizzled out somewhat not knowing how to respond. The best I could come up with was "so, is that wheat beer? it's fucking light looking" but actually the less attractive of the two picked up the thread and told me it's from kansas city, etc. I finally found something and I made up a story about how me and an ex girlfriend went on a roadtrip from colorado to miami and we stopped by kansas city. that actually had some dhv's and I could see the positive reaction. but then i fizzled again and started asking boring logical questions about kansas city. In addition, I was leaning in too much to the set, and I was probably being way too needy as I kept catching myself in the act.

kit came in and i think he thinks he fucked up my set because they left right as he came in to wing me, but dude it was just a fucked up set that i need to learn from.


Then I winged him in one set. Kit was talking to a seated twoset and seemed to be doing OK. I go in and he does a good job of paying better attention to his wing than target as i enter(this makes you look non-needy and cool). You should have introduced me to the girls and vv though kit because it was awkward coming in to the set but that's cool. Problem number two was that the obstacle I was playing was one of the most hideous looking girls with a nasty gross "the world is out to get me and I reek of STDs" personality I've ever met. She was like a female bum. I wouldn't give her the time of day otherwise, and I'm afraid I didn't do a very good job of "taking one for the team" kit sorry dude. but you had mad IOI's from your target.

i think the biggest lesson of the night for me is 1.) be more of a badass and less of a pussy. 2.) don't grasp for straws and be needy and try to keep conversational threads going and seem like you're trying to keep the conversation flowing. Seems like that's a cue for them to bail out.

[DateDemon]

dude being a wing to someone and distracting an ugly gross chick just comes with the territory from time to time.

I remember there was once I was winging a friend and the girl he wanted to game had this hideous friend. I go "dude you've got 20 minutes to make something happen." This girl must like count on guys jumping on the grenade for their buddies. I am almost convinced she paid the other girl to go with her so wingmen would have to deal with her. lol So anyway I go up and say hi to her and do my job the goal was strictly distraction. and I swear as soon as I say hi to this girl she was all like "Your Cute!!" In a way that a fat girl would look at a dessert and say "Your Yummy". I tried to talk about the most unsexual topic I could think of I think grandparents. And as I am talking I swear this chick like runs her hand down my arm. I was like "woah slow down there tiger, I just got out of a relationship and don't want to be touchy feely yet" So my friend is getting her friends number thank god and we eject.

Point is Play like a champion! =P Also Kit should have introduced you as you came in the set, it makes things more awkward if he doesn't but that is no biggie.

[isosceles cheese]

I try to transition with a cold read "hey, are you two sisters? You look alike" and the uglier one is like "THANKS!" and the hot one kind of takes it as an insult, which is funny in retrospect. Anyway, no they weren't sisters.

lulz

[El Fenix]

Also Kit should have introduced you as you came in the set, it makes things more awkward if he doesn't but that is no biggie.

Always intro your wing. Always.
A good tactic I learned is to walk up to your friend,as they are in set, and ask"do you need anything from the bar?"
If it's a good time to bring you in, he will intro you then. If not, he will answer with a drink, or say" I'm good for now." You go to the bar or walk around, and come back a few minutes later, giving your wing time to make the set stick.