progress good. grunt.

[grimm1111]

OK after Friday night's bombouts, had coffee the next day with Kit, Knight Rose, and George (a cool dude, totally forgot your handle tho sorry).

Basically we talked about a lot of shit but when it came to my shit you guys gave me an awesome debreif and then totally fixed up my body language and some other shit that was fucked up with my game. Fucking awesome guys, thanks. Kit, you fucking rock dude.

So we met up at Black Finn and met up with isocoles cheese (fuck me in the spelling, jesus man) Anyway alright, first night of the set fuckin Knight Rose points out a twoset at the bar behind us. He's like "dude go in." i got a little bit of AA as usual on my first set but Kit gives me an opener and I go in.

OK the set opens and then Kit comes in and takes over, like we planned, and he starts running the rings routine. Then some fucking AMOG comes in who doesn't even know the girls and tries to fuck him up. Kit takes his ass down mentally, basically confronting him at first, then flipping it around and befriending him. haha!! nicely done, man.

Anyway then Kit leaves with the AMOG and I'm in the twoset.

OK so basically, before I even opened my mouth I could tell that this wasn't a typical bar set. By that I mean they were pretty low-key and laid back, had a good attention span - just the whole vibe was more comfort/coffehouse than flashy bar vibe and that's pretty much how the set went down. I could just feel it out that I wasn't going to have to do much A2 attraction or worry about hooking or anything. I open my target with "well that was pretty fuckin crazy, fuck ME!"

HB: "I KNOW!! we don't know those guys!"

ME: "oh that's cool, it's all a fuckin party. I'm Peter by the way."

(I know it's usually not good to introduce yourself, but it wasn't rapport seeking in this case, it felt normal, like a day game set or a warm approach almost.)

HB: "oh! (she brightens up totally) I'm Ashley, this is my friend Obsticle (no that's not her name, but i don't remember). Sooo what did YOU major in?" (you had to have heard what the AMOG was saying to get why this is relevent, but basically he was like "sorry i didn't fucking major in psychology" and apparently that stuck in her head at that moment)

ME: "No I didn't fuckin go to college"

HB: "no degree, ok. what do you do?" (screening me, but whatever)

ME: "Oh I'm a male stripper" (nonchalantly, like i'm totally serious)

HB: laughs "hahaha no you're not, if you were a stripper you'd be working tonight"

ME: "tables yeah. haha ok good one. Marketing, i went to Miami, you know like Florida?"

HB: "oh, that's good. Yeah I've been to disney world, is that close?"

And guys, basically we were just in comfort from start to finish, i did qualify her a little bit and throw in a few jelousy plotlines and a couple routines, but mostly we were in comfort right off the bat.

AMOG came back in after like the first 45 minutes or so and he's all "so what are you doing to my girl here? Are you trying to pick her up?"

ME: "her? oh, yeah we just hooked up. sorry man, hey."

AMOG: looks confused "uhhhh....like....uhhhh....well i have a 3 makeout rule"

ME: "what 3 times? sorry dude you gotta talk fuckin louder"

anyway then i backturn him for a second to get a beer, and target tells him that she's my girlfriend. she told me she said that then asked if that was cool and it was to get rid of him.

Hmmm. We talked a second more, then I guess her top came undone and she asked me to tie her up, she's all "i'm naked ahh"

And she showed me her tattoo on her ass which was pretty hot. Then her friend pulled her in to the bathroom and i met up with the boys.

Got a number close, she took off with her friend, and I ended up meeting up with the others again who were all seeming to have a great fucking time.

Txted her later but she didn't answer. We'll see if I can day 2 her, i dunno.

It was cool meeting Juju and isocoles cheese for the first time, you guys seem like cool dudes. Knight Rose, thanks for pointing out the set. Kit, dude what can I say.

That's all. Out.

[grimm1111]

by the way that was like a 2 hour set. i needed to get more kino and i should have been able to get a SNL here i think.

[Lion]

Well played. Did you text her the same night or was it a different night?

[grimm1111]

Well played. Did you text her the same night or was it a different night?

Thanks, yeah that was pretty good teamwork. I still got a lot of shit to work on but after a night like the one before it feels pretty fucking good i'll say to have a fucking victory of some shade.

Oh this all happened Sat. at Black Finn, I txted her like 2 hours after they left. "Do you speak text? - Peter" but she didn't answer it.

[Kit]

Crap dude. What happened to your confidence level between your last FR and this FR? It comes across well written, to the point and confident. I think you were being modest in your last FR and when we met at Starbucks because when I read this, and I am being totally sincere, I think, “damn, this guy can teach me some shit.” Seriously, if I had not seen some of this myself, I'd call "bullshit" on you.

She was cute and I liked her friendly personality.

There is room for improvement and I hope some of the experienced PUAs will give you some feedback on that, but to be quite honest, this blows away any set or close I have had to date. I have kissed closed, f closed and number closed. I have opened some nice sets but I have not managed to isolate and get a woman to undress for me in a club and keep her attention that long. You did what I am still trying to work up to.

Fucking win man!

[Bull Run]

ME: "oh that's cool, it's all a fuckin party. I'm Peter by the way."

(I know it's usually not good to introduce yourself, but it wasn't rapport seeking in this case, it felt normal, like a day game set or a warm approach almost.)

You already know this, but I almost never introduce myself to them. I've actually been in sets before in which I number close them or otherwise before we even exchange names. Telling each other your names is too formal and changes the interaction from on of being fun and social to being purpose driven. It subcommunicates that I'm interested enough in you to get your name for future conversations.

Other things I don't ask:

-What do you do?
-Where do you work?
-Where do you live?
-How old are you?
-Where did you go to college?

As a matter of fact, I almost NEVER ask questions. People will give you plenty of information through the course of traditional converstation.

I like the line about not going to college. It's a bit of a disqualifier, I'm going to some form of it sometime.

Hope you hear back from her!

[playercool]

I have seen it argued before. Who knows maybe it doesn't matter one bit.

I also never introduce myself or ask for her name. If she is into me or the conversation she will ask my name or introduce herself. It happens just about everytime.

And yes I have number closed before without even knowing her name. That is when you get her name...hahah because she just put it in your phone. HB: Ohh btw what was your name?

[grimm1111]

Success breeds confidence, but probably not the right kind of confidence. I am on a personal journey to become a more internally validated person as opposed to an externally validated person - which basically means I try not to let myself get emotionally affected by anyone's acceptance either positively or negatively. That sounds high-minded and lofty, and it is. I still have some progress to make in that area because obviously I still have a little AA, having a good night made me feel like "the shit" and having a bad night made me depressed. But I am better than i used to be.

Seriously, if I had not seen some of this myself, I'd call "bullshit" on you.

No you're right, let me go in to a little more detail bc i can see how imaginations could run wild - she didn't undress like she was running around naked in the club. she was wearing a blouse that tightened with two threads in the back that tied together, and they came undone, so it was loose not off lol. the blouse would have to be pulled over her head to come off. she just asked me to tie her up, and i complied, which was actually a fuckup on my part because i just jumped through a hoop and she used her sexuality/comfort to get me to do stuff for her. a sec later she showed me her tattoo on her ass, but she didn't fucking strip in the club, the tattoo was on the upper left part of her ass cheek and she pulled her pants down a little to show that part of her ass. we were pretty comfortable with each other which is ok, and we were standing like 1 inch apart in a nook so nobody else would have been able to see around me. She did those things to qualify herself to me as sexy and to get validation, so she's a smart girl and she knows guys like sex.

I'm happy with the set because it's good experience, but i should have escalated much more and I'm positive I could have pulled.

The reason I'm pissed about not getting at least a club makeout (SNL would have been ideal) is that now if I try to call her, the frame is already up that "this is a nice guy. this is a date. this is leading to LTR land... blah" i had the opportunity to turn it sexual but i missed it, but oh well i'm not hung up on it, there's always another girl

[Lion]

Well played. Did you text her the same night or was it a different night?

Thanks, yeah that was pretty good teamwork. I still got a lot of shit to work on but after a night like the one before it feels pretty fucking good i'll say to have a fucking victory of some shade.

Oh this all happened Sat. at Black Finn, I txted her like 2 hours after they left. "Do you speak text? - Peter" but she didn't answer it.

There are some exceptions, but it's not generally a good idea to text the same night.

[isosceles cheese]

good shit dude. We didn't talk much, but we should roll together this weekend. I could learn from you.