Hooters Waitress -- my 1st Post

[Burl]

Intro.: This is my 1st post. I am new to the Game. When I was younger I had more than my share of fun with the ladies. I'm 48, now. For the past few years, economic circumstances forced me to leave the arena. Things have changed for the better and I now want to re-enter the Game. I am definitely rusty. So I am turning here for advice, friendship and polishing up my game.

The Setting: Last Wed. nite, an old friend and I went drinking. We hadn't seen each other in several months. We met at Adair's and began consuming mass quantities. I had no intention of trying to pick up any girls. After we had had too many, we headed over to Hooters in the West End to continue drinking with some of his buddies who were already there.

The other men at the table were older Vietnam vets and retired Marines. We were having a great time -- very macho men-of-the-square-table fun.

The HB: Our waitress was a pretty 20-something -- probably HB7 to 20-something men, but HB8 or 9 to a 48 -year-old man. She had given me some signs of interest, such as running her hand across my shoulders as she walked by, even if she wasn't stopping at our table. I said something to her about a boyfriend and she said she didn't have one and didn't want a boyfriend; that she just wanted to have fun. And looked me in the eye when she said it.

I had an inspired thought (dusting off the rust I suppose). The next time she came to our table I told her that we were all wondering if her outfit was a one or two piece outfit. Just as I knew she would, she lifted the bottom of her blouse up out of her shorts and showed us her nice flat tummy with 2 or 3 piercings. Then without my asking she pulled the waistline of her shorts out just a bit to "prove" it was not a one-piece outfit....

I didn't carry things too far, because I couldn't come up with a next step.

Comments & Questions: An old friend of mine (a natural PUA) taught me that if you get the right signs, especially laughs, try to get a girl to give you a peak under her clothes. Examples include, does her bra match her panties, or anthing to "prove" a point... He said if you can get that far, then the rest is a cinch.

I had too much to drink, so there wasn't a chance of my f-closing that nite. I didn't think to #-close her. Do you guys think I could have #-closed her? She is 20 years younger than I am. Was she flirting with me to get a bigger tip or was she really interested?

Also, there were 5 of us at one of the high tables. I had a chair at the "head" of the table - on the outside aisle. I think that it (unintentionally on my part) gave me Alpha male status and allowed me to talk more easily with her and on a more personal level than the other guys at the table. Any thoughts on that??

I look forward to hearing from you guys.

Burl

[Scoundrel]

You swing for the fence!

Well, hooters girls always flirt with the customers. It goes with the job same as a topless bar. So, what she did may or may not have meant something. Also, men flirt with them all day so it's a tough game. I’m thinking that if you can game a hooters chick, get her number and F-close her you should be on the all star team.

BTW welcome! I always like it when another over 40 man comes around.

[Burl]

Hey thanks for the reply. Seems like everything I read or see in the community is for younger guys. Is this the case?

I just moved here a year ago. I live in the Lakewood area of Dallas. Where are some good nearby places to practice? I prefer places not too loud as I have problems hearing and being heard...

Burl = Old Wood ha!

[Scoundrel]

I live in NRH and do most of my partying in FTW. I don't like loud clubs either. I've been going to bars around 7 PM and I'm mostly out by 10. I've found bars close to places where women shop to be rich with targets. Someplace close to a mall or shopping center with lots of women's shops.

[Burl]

Thanks Scoundrel

Near where women shop is a great idea. I've already thought of a couple of places real close to home.

[Mojo]

The HB: Our waitress was a pretty 20-something -- probably HB7 to 20-something men, but HB8 or 9 to a 48 -year-old man. She had given me some signs of interest, such as running her hand across my shoulders as she walked by, even if she wasn't stopping at our table.

Is the hired gun being nice for a tip or for you? Good question... A few things you can check for to indicate geniune interest.

Dialated pupil when talking to you
Flushed face

Also, trust your feelings. If it feels like true interest, then it could very well be. Intuition/feeling comes from the subconcious. Your subconcious already knows whether she is or isn't. That's why you should always be genuine and honest when gaming! The girls subconcious can tell if you are being fake. There is actually a routine of mine where I show a female how to talk to her subconcious. All you need is a chain with a weight - I use my silver neclace and a ring. You could use it to ask your subconcious whether she is interested in you or not. Come out with us sometime and I'll show you it.

I said something to her about a boyfriend and she said she didn't have one and didn't want a boyfriend; that she just wanted to have fun. And looked me in the eye when she said it.

Gooood sign

I had an inspired thought (dusting off the rust I suppose). The next time she came to our table I told her that we were all wondering if her outfit was a one or two piece outfit. Just as I knew she would, she lifted the bottom of her blouse up out of her shorts and showed us her nice flat tummy with 2 or 3 piercings. Then without my asking she pulled the waistline of her shorts out just a bit to "prove" it was not a one-piece outfit....

Gooood sign #2

Comments & Questions: An old friend of mine (a natural PUA) taught me that if you get the right signs, especially laughs, try to get a girl to give you a peak under her clothes. Examples include, does her bra match her panties, or anthing to "prove" a point... He said if you can get that far, then the rest is a cinch.

Good advice

Also, there were 5 of us at one of the high tables. I had a chair at the "head" of the table - on the outside aisle. I think that it (unintentionally on my part) gave me Alpha male status and allowed me to talk more easily with her and on a more personal level than the other guys at the table.

Being head of the table would make you look more alpha. Good observation.

[Slider]

Whats up Burl. I had a similar encounter about 3 weeks ago. I just moved to Fort Worth, and was out with a buddy having a few beers at the Hooters in Arlington that gives free beer. What a fantastic concept.

Anway, sitting at the bar and a HB7 is serving us. I am teasing her, didn't have a clue what a neg was at that time. I basically don't know how to flirt unless I have a few in me. Anway, I pulled this line out of no where and it really seemed to work.

I am 26 and a huge fan of 80's music. She was 21. "I Want You to Want Me" came on the stereo for the restaurant.

Me: "Hey Liz, can name this band. I am pretty sure you can't."

Her: "Ummm. Not really sure. I have heard this song before."

Me: "Ok. Thank you."

Her: "Thank you for what."

Me: "Well, you confirmed that we could never get married because you don't have a deep appreciation for 80's music."

After that, I wasn't really upset that she didn't know the song, but I kind of ignored her for a while. My friend goes to the bathroom and I call her over to talk with me. I asked what she was doing after work. She said she was going to a party near TCU and wasn't sure if she was going or not. I told her that she could meet up with us later. After that, my buddy came back and we continued drinking.

So I pretty much ignored her again, and did a little flirting when we were about to leave. I was thinking, she must do this to every guy. I am getting worked over. Yatta yatta yatta. So I get up to walk out without saying anything to her.

She almost lunges over the bar to say "That's it!"

Got the number close. Called her up later, and she flaked out on me for a date. I get lots of number closes, but tend to get little interest later on.

Anyway, Burl I think you should have gone for it. The worst thing that happens is she doesn't give you her number. Then again, I always go for it and have had to develope some pretty thick skin. Good luck with it.