Dallas PUA

Last night I lost a fellow PUA wingman. I'm not going to mention his name on here but I would love for him to respond to this. Here is the story, take the poll and tell me what you think. Read the short or long version.

LONG VERSION:

The plan was to go sarging at Candleroom. Candleroom is one of the only upscale places to sarge on Wednesday nights. My wing and I wanted social proof and to DHV by bringing girls with us. So I called my "fuck buddy" HB8 and she brought her brother's girlfriend, Lez, HB7.5. Lez lives with her boyfriend and her boyfriend is watching Jen's children for the night.

The girls and my PUA wingman came over my house. We had drinks and shots, everything weas good. At 11:45ish we got to Candleroom. My fuck buddy friend, Jen, forgot her ID and we could not get in. Needless to say we all were pissed.

So we went to several other places that all sucked and then got back to my house at 1:00 and we all started drinking heavily. Except me I sipped my drink.

Flirting persued and things were fun. Jen and I went upstairs for a quickie. She was really horny and, well..... enough said....

When I came down Jen went and talked to my wingman and my roommate and I talked to Lez. Kino escalation, she sat on my lap. Both girls had great dresses on.(wink) It was cold outside and I could easliy see that A2 was done and that this girl was interested in me. She was very self conscious so negging her was not a good thing. Plus everyone throughout the night, including myself for a little bit commented on her, "negative" attitude. Kinda bringing down the group. So while outside I let her talk and made her feel a little better.

After 20 min we went inside. My roommate, my wingman, and Jen were sitting on the couch. Time: about 3:00ish am of course. Lez and I went and sat on the couch, and Jen, my roommate and my wing went to the kitchen for more drinks. While on the couch, kino escalation continued but I kinda held back. My "girl" was right there and I didn't know how she would feel about it.

My roommate went downstairs to bed, and my wing and Jen went out on the balcany.

SHORT VERSION:

Then it happened, Lez got up and said, "I have to go home" and goes outside to tell Jen they need to go. Jen doesn't want to go home so the two girls start talking about it and my wingman comes in to let them talk alone. At some point they are going to leave but Lez needs her car keys. She can't find them. In reality they are sitting somewhere on the couch. For 10 minutes Lez is looking for her keys and saying over and over, "Where are my keys?" and "I have to go home". Jen is still trying to talk Lez into staying too.

Then my wingman comes over to me and says,

Wing: "Hey man, I have her keys. (and he shows me the keys) What should I do with them?"

Me: "Give them to Jen and let her deal with this." Jen wants to stay and might might keep the keys but let her do that"

(My thinking is that, Jen is friends with Lez, let Jen do it. Jen wants to stay real bad anyway. Plus swiping some stranger's keys for 10 min is cool, holding onto them for 2 hours it becomes a big issue)

So, girls keep talking up in my bedroom. Lez is super upset/depressed but Jen is bringing her up. I decide to make breakfast for everyone. I go upstairs to where the girl are in the bedroom and ask them about breakfast. They were finishing up wrestling... During the entire time the girls were talking in the bedroom my wingman was listening into their conversation from outside my open bedroom door.

I starting making breakfast and Jen and my wing ended up on the balcony talking and smoking again. I went to the balcony to ask them if they wanted cheese on their food and then I saw it.

MY WINGMAN WAS KISSING MY GIRL!!!!

I EXPLICITLY TOLD HIM. DO NOT MAKE THE MOVE ON JEN AND YET THERE HE WAS KISSING HER ON MY BALCONY!!!!

My wing saw me see him and I saw it in his eyes that he knew he was caught. So, I said,"That's it. Party is over! Get out! Give Lez her keys back and they need to go!"

Well, now that I said that the girls knew that my wing was holding onto the keys they were looking for for the past 2 - 3 hours. Everyone started going apeshit. My wingman DENYING having the keys and said why is this happening?!?!

Jen went fucking drunk fighting crazy on his ass and want to kill him at that point. She was throwing things, kicked him in the face a couple times and everything else..... VERY UGLY at and 4:45 am. I held her back and went to my wing and said,

"WHERE ARE THE FUCKING KEYS????"

You will not belive what he did....... He TRIED FRAME CONTROLING ME?!?!!?!?! Instead of answering me he would ask me questions and change the topic... For 10 minutes this went on.

When outside and Jen is going super crazy on him all three of us ask my wing, "Empty your pockets"

HE REFUSES!!!!! "I don't have to prove myself to you guys."

I go get my taser and a pair of handcuffs. (I'm a cop) I said I'm not fucking around empty or pockets or let me feel your pockets or we'll do this the hard way. He lets me and complains while I'm doing it.

Side note: My wing know Jusitsu and is VERY good at it. So I'm not going to wrestle with him, I will taser though...

He goes home without ever telling us where the keys are.

When I got back home I later found where he hid the keys on the balcony.

How I see it:

1. KISSING MY GIRL.
2. LYING TO ME ABOUT IT AFTER I SAW IT.
3. LYING TO ME ABOUT EVER HAVING THE KEYS AFTER HE TOLD ME AND I SAW THAT HE HAD THEM.
4. NOT GIVING THE KEYS TO JEN EARLIER LIKE I ASKED HIM TOO.
5. RISKING ME LOSING A LONG TIME GIRL I AM GOOD FRIENDS WITH OVER HIDING KEYS
6. NOT TELLING ME WHERE THE KEYS ARE!!
No respect at all. Would you keep a wing like that?

P.S. - My wing is FREE to respond to this with, "his version"... A lot happened that night but I really trying to condense it.

I have four thoughts.

Everyone (except you) got too drunk and did drunken stupid things. At 4:45 in the morning after drinking all night, shit happens. If you live that lifestyle, you gotta be able to handle the consequences. My friends and I have done many stupid things to each other when we were wasted drunk but we realize it was the alcohol, and not our friend talking, and all is forgiven.

You need to talk to your wing about this vs. airing your dirty laundry. If he is also a member of the community, you too should handle it in private vs. letting a bunch of guys solve it.

I would be as pissed at your girl who you had just slept with as with your wing. They were both in the wrong. However, you also were flirting with the other girl too in front of your girl after you slept with her. What comes around, goes around....

Finally, you shouldn't be doing your cop stuff when you are drinking. Its a good way to get fired or sued.