EX-GIRLFRIENDS AMOGING or Trying to...
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:45 amIf you enlighten your ex-girlfriend about "The Game" and your new methods then this is warning. I am not posting this to tell anyone that they should not tell any girlfriends or exs about what you do but just make sure you can handle it if you run into a bad situation.
The night described (posted reply rather) under "Ramblin' comments of a set I had this weekend" under General Discussions was a good sarging experience. To set up what happened for those who did not read it; we were at Oktoberfest in Addison and our friend grew pissy at the end of the night, ran off on us and drove us home (when we found him) because he felt left out while we sarged EVEN though we included the entire group. We ended up going to Blackfinn (had a fucking blast sarging) but we drove because he left us at our apartment so he could join other friends that were not into the community. The whole time our friend was pissy (before he dropped us off) and while at Blackfinn, Shine's ex-girlfriend grew more and more impressed and attracted (mainly to Shine because he dated her for such a long time and recently broke up) to us and how we were maintaining ourselves, not just with our pissy friend (we acted like nothing affected us) but also in the social environment.
The next day:
Shine told the ex about what we were doing to go through this "miraculous transformation" (that she said had happened to us) because she was soooo intrigued by how we changed as people. The next day she read "The Game" from cover to cover and informed us that she wanted to go sarging with us and become a pivot.
We gladly accepted and agreed to meet at Blue Fish the next night. One could say that this was a bad idea because the whole time we were there she had TOTAL BITCH SHIELD and was telling her friends not to let us touch them or play any stupid mind games. It was not a bad idea, rather we did not establish the environment well. I WAS IRRATE
but I did not show it at the bar 
. What we did not do and should have was open sets before joining them and then have them join us. Instead, we went straight to their table. The good thing we did do was excuse ourselves from their table and go open other sets (as if we were leaving but did not) and then left.
First off, we screwed up by not controlling the environment. Second, his ex-girlfriend was being a bitch because "the girls" she was with were her friends and she felt she had to protect them EVEN though she wanted to be a pivot for us and wanted to sarge with us. THE ENTIRE TIME the ex-girlfriend was trying to get us to validate ourselves and we did not. SHE tried to control the group/situation but we actually had stronger game and even though we did not get in great rapport with the rest of the group, we left on top.
It is funny because the ex-gf gave us SHIT all night but wanted us to hang around. Shine left the ex-girlfriend with the comment (something like): "It is too bad for you because we do not need to validate ourselves to hang out with you," and she WAS SHOCKED. She completely turned 180 in attitude and wanted us to stay. She even had puppy dog eyes as she asked us to stay. So then, we opened a few sets and then left to discuss what happened.
As we got home, several text messages came in from the bitchy ex-gf still trying for us to validate ourselves for leaving and she was still being a bitch. I mistakenly (in somewhat of a hurry and while talking to people) left the waiter (the new guy she was dating) a poor tip (only like 11%-12%). SO SHE HAD TO COMMENT ON THAT TO US TO TRY TO PISS US OFF AND VALIDATE. We ignored her and her text messages. To fix the poor tip, the next night I tipped the waiter (because I was up at Blue Fish for a family member's B-day) extra cash (in a handshake) to make the tip ~50% after all was said and done. The waiter ecstatically thanked me twice for the extra tip. I DID NOT SAY ANYTHING TO THE EX-GF OR THE WAITER ABOUT THE EX-GF'S COMMENT. NO VALIDATION was needed. SHE WOULD FIND OUT FROM THE WAITER. Back to the text messages we ignored: after ignoring the bitchy ex-gf, one of the ex-gf's friends called us wanting to hang out again sometime even though she had a boyfriend. HA!
Even though the ex-gf set was a set with mostly friends that we felt like we could let our guard down a little while approaching and opening (but not gambiting and "kinoing") because we knew most of them, we should have not. I would think that in the future we should not have to treat a friend set like a set never talked to before but in this case (because of the bitchy shield) we should have. This is not to say that other friends will do the same and that we should approach them as a new set.
Basically, be ready for EX-GF bitchiness in the back of your mind if it ever should come out during a sarging experience. We now know what we should have done and what we will do in the future. You can't blame the ex-gf for her protective instinct for her friends (since she was alpha female) but at the same time we were friends and she was acting like a bitch that night. One of the reasons why she was such a bitch was due to fact that Shine (before knowing about the community and sarging) chased her for a long time before they became a couple. The whole time he was chasing and after, she was the ALPHA. NOW HE IS THE ALPHA in that relationship (of what is left since they are no longer together).
I just wanted to share with everyone our experience and if there is any grammatical errors, then so be it. I am at work right now. There you go... I am validating myself as we speak. There is a difference though between normal validation and sarge validation.
The night described (posted reply rather) under "Ramblin' comments of a set I had this weekend" under General Discussions was a good sarging experience. To set up what happened for those who did not read it; we were at Oktoberfest in Addison and our friend grew pissy at the end of the night, ran off on us and drove us home (when we found him) because he felt left out while we sarged EVEN though we included the entire group. We ended up going to Blackfinn (had a fucking blast sarging) but we drove because he left us at our apartment so he could join other friends that were not into the community. The whole time our friend was pissy (before he dropped us off) and while at Blackfinn, Shine's ex-girlfriend grew more and more impressed and attracted (mainly to Shine because he dated her for such a long time and recently broke up) to us and how we were maintaining ourselves, not just with our pissy friend (we acted like nothing affected us) but also in the social environment.
The next day:
Shine told the ex about what we were doing to go through this "miraculous transformation" (that she said had happened to us) because she was soooo intrigued by how we changed as people. The next day she read "The Game" from cover to cover and informed us that she wanted to go sarging with us and become a pivot.
We gladly accepted and agreed to meet at Blue Fish the next night. One could say that this was a bad idea because the whole time we were there she had TOTAL BITCH SHIELD and was telling her friends not to let us touch them or play any stupid mind games. It was not a bad idea, rather we did not establish the environment well. I WAS IRRATE
but I did not show it at the bar . What we did not do and should have was open sets before joining them and then have them join us. Instead, we went straight to their table. The good thing we did do was excuse ourselves from their table and go open other sets (as if we were leaving but did not) and then left.
First off, we screwed up by not controlling the environment. Second, his ex-girlfriend was being a bitch because "the girls" she was with were her friends and she felt she had to protect them EVEN though she wanted to be a pivot for us and wanted to sarge with us. THE ENTIRE TIME the ex-girlfriend was trying to get us to validate ourselves and we did not. SHE tried to control the group/situation but we actually had stronger game and even though we did not get in great rapport with the rest of the group, we left on top.
It is funny because the ex-gf gave us SHIT all night but wanted us to hang around. Shine left the ex-girlfriend with the comment (something like): "It is too bad for you because we do not need to validate ourselves to hang out with you," and she WAS SHOCKED. She completely turned 180 in attitude and wanted us to stay. She even had puppy dog eyes as she asked us to stay. So then, we opened a few sets and then left to discuss what happened.
As we got home, several text messages came in from the bitchy ex-gf still trying for us to validate ourselves for leaving and she was still being a bitch. I mistakenly (in somewhat of a hurry and while talking to people) left the waiter (the new guy she was dating) a poor tip (only like 11%-12%). SO SHE HAD TO COMMENT ON THAT TO US TO TRY TO PISS US OFF AND VALIDATE. We ignored her and her text messages. To fix the poor tip, the next night I tipped the waiter (because I was up at Blue Fish for a family member's B-day) extra cash (in a handshake) to make the tip ~50% after all was said and done. The waiter ecstatically thanked me twice for the extra tip. I DID NOT SAY ANYTHING TO THE EX-GF OR THE WAITER ABOUT THE EX-GF'S COMMENT. NO VALIDATION was needed. SHE WOULD FIND OUT FROM THE WAITER. Back to the text messages we ignored: after ignoring the bitchy ex-gf, one of the ex-gf's friends called us wanting to hang out again sometime even though she had a boyfriend. HA!
Even though the ex-gf set was a set with mostly friends that we felt like we could let our guard down a little while approaching and opening (but not gambiting and "kinoing") because we knew most of them, we should have not. I would think that in the future we should not have to treat a friend set like a set never talked to before but in this case (because of the bitchy shield) we should have. This is not to say that other friends will do the same and that we should approach them as a new set.
Basically, be ready for EX-GF bitchiness in the back of your mind if it ever should come out during a sarging experience. We now know what we should have done and what we will do in the future. You can't blame the ex-gf for her protective instinct for her friends (since she was alpha female) but at the same time we were friends and she was acting like a bitch that night. One of the reasons why she was such a bitch was due to fact that Shine (before knowing about the community and sarging) chased her for a long time before they became a couple. The whole time he was chasing and after, she was the ALPHA. NOW HE IS THE ALPHA in that relationship (of what is left since they are no longer together).
I just wanted to share with everyone our experience and if there is any grammatical errors, then so be it. I am at work right now. There you go... I am validating myself as we speak. There is a difference though between normal validation and sarge validation.