Frustration Report: HBChaser

[NobodyUKnow]

I first met this girl online, and she's chased me pretty regularly. Text & phone calls out of the blue. We originally had setup plans to meet on Friday, but tonight she calls me out of the blue and wants to go out.

I tell her to meet me at my place. She shows up, we fluff for a bit, talk about music for a bit in my studio, and then head to club G.C.

We stopped for a bit at the sports bar across the parking lot, fluffflufffluff, then bounce to GC. We hang there 'till they close the place down (BTW... wed is supposed to be ladies night there, but it was dead. They closed at 1). Kiss close on the way to the car.

We bounce out to the lake and walk around there, make out, getting heavy.

After about 20 minutes of that, we head back to my place. More tour... this time the bedroom is included. She likes the painting above my bed. Make out on the bed. Clothes fall off. LMR?!? WTF, we're fucking naked. She's afraid I won't call her. I tell her whether or not I call has nothing to do with whether or not she fucks me, unless she really sucks in bed, and I can already tell she doesn't. It doesn't help.

I wonder if I should have framed it: If you rock me in bed, I will call, but if you leave me with blueballs, there's no fucking way I'm calling.

Whatever... time for a takeaway. I suddenly get thirsty and go get a drink. More makeout. I practice tounge excercises on her pussy; she comes twice. MORE LMR. Note to self: from now on don't make her come until AFTER your dick is wet. Anyway, dirty talk, put her hand on my cock, more make out. We grind away with my cock knocking on the door for ten minutes... she STILL doesn't give in, even tho she's wet as hell and grinding me back hard. Maybe I gave up too easy, but I get the feeling it's not going to happen, so it's time for her to get out.

It would have been soooo easy to "slip" and put it in... but IMO this was not an instance of no meaning turn me on some more. I tried that, and in the end she still said no, and as much as it pissed me off, I had to respect it.

Total time from first meet to naked almost-sex: 3 hours. 3 bounces.

I'm a little disappointed in myself that I didn't use much in the way of game at all... I just fluffed and escalated when it was clear it would work. I used everything I could think of to get over the LMR, but nothing worked. One the one hand, it wasn't at all needed, but on the other hand, maybe if I'd done more comfort and sexual suggestion (especially the non-judgement frame) this would be an LR instead.

If she pulls this shit on Friday she is SO deleted from my phone.

[Vector]

Ouch that sucks.

I have a hard time with freeze-outs because I don't want to come off as whiny or pouty when she says no, and no matter how many times I say "that's cool" and "that's fine" if I get up to check my email, it just feels like I'm pouting.

Someone pointed out to me that freeze-outs should be just physical freeze-outs, where you stop touching, but you still fluff talk and you still pay attention to her.

My other favorite technique is to go to sleep and go for it in the morning.

I'm not sure if I like the quid-pro-quo frame. I don't know if it would work or not but I generally want sex to be disconnected from my interest in her. I don't want her to think I want her primarily for sex.

That said, teasing you like that is a selfish, rude thing to do, and you don't like selfish rude people. So while sex is not a requirement for you to want to hang out, her behavior reflects the kind of person she is, who you know you don't want to hang out with (which is basically the same thing hahah).

[eros]

looks like u find a girl that`s intro is "no sex at first date", or she was too stress out, period or she is virgin :))
when i have a new woman in my room usually i give her a back massage if she look confused, so i take my time and make her feel more comfortable , it will be like u offer her something and she will offer you something back , kino , and after that get down on her or straight sex. and works , or Mistery advice if she`s a biotch start jerk off , paint her hahhahah