K-Closed!

[JohnnyBravo]

OK...earlier in the evening I had decided I was going to to Cowboys Red River in Dallas. I live in S. Fort Worth. At the last minute I think...Fuck it...That's a long ass ways to drive. Even if I do meet a chick, she's probably gonna be a GUD (geographically undesirable)....I don't really want to drive to Dallas just to score piece of ass.....So instead, I decided to go to North Side of Ft. Worth. There's a new multi-club complex in the Stocktyards. Upon entering I come across a guy who was from NY and was in FW on business. Cover was five bucks and we had access to a half dozen clubs on West Exchange. Shiner was expensive at 4.50 and domestics were 3.50. The first stop was a blues bar with a decent band. Not very crowded so we drank a beer and moved on. Next stop was a sports bar by day and live music at night. Good band at this place. Asked two chicks to dance, first was an UG for practice who told me "maybe later" and the second was decent looking who was with friends. Friends wanted to leave...she grabbed my hand and I attempted to pull her towards the dance floor (it was a Merle Haggard song)....her friends started pulling her other hand...it was pretty funny...Tug of war...Her friends eventually won the "pull" and she said "maybe later"....whatever.......next stop was a rendition of Coyote Ugly...this place sucked. We walked out of this place and saw the Cadillac Bar across the street. This place was absolutely crawling with pussy and had no cover charge. You fellow Ft. Worth guys need to check out this place!! Opened a three set of chicks ignoring the target. Chatted with the other two chicks, and the target asked me to dance!! Luckily it was country. I really suck at dancing to the rock shit. So we danced and it was a constant shit test of questions during the dance! I tried to ignore and move the subject to other things, but I failed miserably as she continued to shit test. After that I spotted a two set and opened with "hey, my friend here is from NY, what is a cool place to show him?" We end up talking to these chicks and one of them says she needs to go to the pisser. They both leave and we never see them again. I saw another two set and opened with the spells routine. My new friend from NY started talking to one of them and eventually asked her to dance (two step. This was funny to watch....A yankee trying to two step...lol..well, it turns out both of these chicks were from California on their way to Boston...Neither one really Knew how to two step! So while my new friend was dancing with one of the HB's I chatted with the other one (HB#2)....HB#2 told me she's not really into two-stepping...no biggie...we just chat about Cheers in Boston and some stuff about Calif...I bs'd my way through it...My new friend comes back and then the set leaves. He told me she became cold when he told her his age (43). The chick was definitely into young guys. I looked over and opened a three set. Danced to a few songs but nothing major going on. Then, the original set returns---the girl who gave me all the shit tests....we danced a few more tunes and she continued to give shit tests. This is where I lost my new friend from NY. I got tired of all of this girls's shit tests and decided to just say "fuck it" and moved on. So I'm standing at the bar alone and one of the chicks from the two set from California comes up next to me and orders a beer. I told the girl (HB#2)..."so buy me a beer". She did and then told me she was ready to dance. So we dance to some country songs. During the first song we're close (I had a hard on and was pressing it up against her) so I leaned in and gave her a kiss on the cheek. No resistance and more of me pressing my dick up against her. Right after that I saw her friend dancing with some guy. We danced the next song, another slow one, so I decide to just lean in and kiss her on the lips after triangulating both eyes and lips. Again, no resistance...she just kissed back with tongue...nice. We were on the opposite side of the dance floor from her friend so I felt like it would be ok for her to kiss me without her worrying about her friend giving her shit later. I sure could have used a wingman here. After the tune was over the "ugly lights" came on and it was time to go. The HB#2 went back to her friend and both girls left and I went back to my truck and drove home. First K-close in a year....that was nice. Now I just need a F close. Is that too much to ask?

[Scoundrel]

First of all this is hard to read. Please, next time would you arrange your FRs into paragraphs?

I've run into the age issue too. Some chick will be giving me IOIs and she'll ask how old I am (45) and when I tell her she goes cold. The best way I've come up with to handle that question is to beat her to the IOD. When she asks tell her "too old for you sweetie."

Did you get her number?

[JohnnyBravo]

These girls were in transit from California to Boston and decided to stop in Ft. Worth for the weekend. They were leaving Ft. Woth today. I didn't see any point in getting her #.

[MagicBalls]

That long paragraph reminds me of The Sound and The Fury for some reason.

[Kraven]

Sup PUAs,

I usually don't ask my targets age and if it comes up, I have them guess mine. Makes a little game of it that is over in a minute or so

It also works well to: spike their interest/buying temp and then IOD or plow through, or just ignore, any age shit tests. The other trick is to frame it as though you thought they were older/younger to begin with

I think the line from Venusian Arts Handbook is: "I'll give you a minute to get over the age thing" then IOD | backturn | break rapport... do this with a smile

[Scoundrel]

Sup PUAs,

I usually don't ask my targets age and if it comes up, I have them guess mine. Makes a little game of it that is over in a minute or so

It also works well to: spike their interest/buying temp and then IOD or plow through, or just ignore, any age shit tests. The other trick is to frame it as though you thought they were older/younger to begin with

I think the line from Venusian Arts Handbook is: "I'll give you a minute to get over the age thing" then IOD | backturn | break rapport... do this with a smile

I bought the VAH and I've tried that line, but it didn't fly for me. I've had better results saying what I posted above. I’ve also had her guess and that comes out pretty well. No matter what she guesses, I tell her “wow, you got it first time!”

How old are you Kraven? Have you had this issue come up often in your play?

[Rhody]

I'm still trying to calibrate the age thing. If a girl asks, I tell her to guess. She always guesses low for me, I've never had a girl guess high. I say, "are you saying I look immature?" If she presses, I tell her my age. If she says something like, "wow, you're old," I say, "yeah, you're probably too immature for me. I bet you go to see High School Musical with your Hello Kitty backpack full of Harry Potter books." After teasing her about how young she is, I say, "no really, what do you like to do?" Imagine that! We have a lot in common. I guess the age thing isn't too big a deal.

That's my ideal plan, but it doesn't always go like that. I can tell when a girl loses attraction when she learns my age. My natural reaction is to next her. In fact, if I ask a set how they all know each other and they tell me that they are in the same class, I tend to lose attraction myself.

[Westfall]

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[Rhody]

You don't have to be honest with them, you can always lie.

I don't have to be honest with anyone. But I am. Always.

[Kraven]

Sup Scoundrel,

34 - Several months ago I would bust a shit eating grin when I'd open some girl, find out she's barely in college and get her attracted to me, now its BAU

The line you use is pretty similar if used as an IOD - if the interaction has run well to that point, it should basically leave the ball in their court (meaning if they re-initiate the conversation, it's no big deal). Reward with an IOI when they continue... or basically if you can fluff over that moment and just make it seem silly, and get her to qualify for you, it should work similarly