Don't Push the F-Close

[Ares]

Went to bar (Sherlock’s) with two friends. 1 guy 1 girl. I went to get drinks and brought them back to the table. As I sat down, I made a quick comment to the two ladies in the booth behind me:

*Oh Man, I love this song! It has Great energy!*

And then turned my back and sat down to leave them hanging. Basically, I’m here and I am fun! (Or I am crazy, but it got them focusing on me). It also demonstrated I had social proof by letting them see me sit down with friends. (Especially the girl)

I then practiced my material on my friends without them knowing (comfortable environment, try it). It succeeded well; they lost a game we played so they had to go kiss on an empty dance floor in front of a semi-filled bar. As my friends walked to the dance floor, I turned around and said:

*Hey, my friends just lost a game we played, so now they have to go kiss on the dance floor*

*REALLY!*, eagerly looking, *What was the game!?*

*I’ll tell you after they are done*, me staying Alpha

*Oh reeeally*, sarcastically

My friends hit the floor and backed out, and on their way back to the table I slid over and entered the set. I sat next to the obstacle, and turned toward her trying to isolate the target. They wanted to hear what the game was. They were interested. I knew my social value really depended on the game and they were willing to put up with me to hear about it so I held off as long as I could, trying to build as much social value as I could before hitting them with my nuke (the game). Bla bla bla, since the whole conversation was started on the fact my friends were kissing, I came with some NLP and asked how they felt on *a first date*, *first kiss*, bla bla bla, hit them with an ESP routine, (worked but the obstacle called me out on why it worked)

*everyone picks 7!*

*what number did you have in your head!*

Pause, *You tell me!*

*I had all my power drained from reading HER (the target). There was a lot of JUNK in the way*. Neg.

Bla bla bla, my friends come over and said they are leaving, and said good bye. This was actually good, I think, because I no longer had to get back to my friends, and I was now solidly in the set. Bla bla bla, drop an S.O.I:

*Wow y’all are sexy AND smart*

They were still begging to hear the game. So I kino the target and say:

*Ok, we are going to play a game, what do you want to bet?*

Bla bla bla, and I say:

*OK, if you win, you get to KISS ME on the dance floor?*

*what!*

Laugh, bla bla bla

*ok, if I win, you have to kiss me on the dance floor. If you win, I will buy y’all a round of drinks*

I am not quite sure if that was good or bad. On one hand, it basically said I did not think her kiss was worth more than a drink. On the other, it might have said, hey it is no big deal; buying drinks for each other and kissing are equivalent. Bottom line, I won and she did not hesitate to hit the dance floor with me. Something I need to mention, it has only been about 20/30 minutes since I moved to their table. So as we hit the dance floor, I had to make the kiss a positive experience because we had not actually built rapport yet. So I went for sensitive-funny (not a real method it is just the best way I can explain it) I faced her and held her hands. And said:

*Hey sweetie, did you have a good day at the office?* framing the situation as though we were a cute married couple or something, she bantered back the same way.

AND IT WAS ON!

We hung out the rest of the night f-ing around with each other, I drove her and her friend back to their house (they took a taxi there; they were planning on drinking and taking a taxi home, to celebrate taking the bar exam). We mugged down tell 3:00am in the morning. I got her to tell me she wanted to fuck, but she was holding her self back. Her buying temperature was through the roof, but she just would not let me get those panties off. I was thinking LMR, but I did not want to push the situation and wreck a sure thing for the next time. I also got her to let me in the house to take a leak. (we had been mugging down in my truck). While in the bathroom, I noticed feminine hygiene products. She was on her freaking period! I guess it could have been her friend, but it could have been her too... So don’t be too hard on yourselves if you don’t f-close. There could be legitimate issues.

-Ares

[Vector]

Nice work, sounds like you did really well.

If I get past a certain point I'll go for the close because I worry that if I don't, then the next time I'm trying to get her to spend time with me, she'll think of an invitation to hang out as equivalent to an invitation to have sex, and she'll not want to hang out in the first place.

Sinn said recently on his blog that if you don't close, she'll backwards rationalize all the reasons she didn't, which hurts you. If you do close, then she'll backwards rationalize all the reasons she did. So you should try to close as soon as possible.

Not long ago I closed a girl on her period. I am fine with it but she was squeamish. I ended up closing her in the shower.

[Ares]

That makes perfect since. thanks.

-Ares