Dallas PUA

I went out to Sherlock's with El Fenix last night and we ran into Mojo and Cosmo. My fitted Calvin Klein shirt was probably a bit much for the venue. We were making our way through the bar, this dude opened me, and his sister hinted she wanted to establish that I was in fact gay and see if she could hook us up. I declined the invitation told them it was pleasure, wished them luck, and kept walking.

Mojo and El Fenix thought it was fucking hilarious that I was queer bait, so Mojo grabs a three set and opens by pulling them all over and taking a "Does my friend look gay or not?" poll. One of the girls tells me I should be flattered and I'm a very attractive man (Do chicks have to think you might be gay to compliment you? I rarely hear that shit.). El Fenix opened a few more sets like that and I just laughed like an idiot or coached the girls to say No. It was all positive reactions, which I don't attribute to the content of the opener at all. What worked for us was that we were just fucking around and it was obvious we were going to get a laugh between ourselves regardless of their reactions.

A while into one set with fun, chubby, cute girl ("f.c.c. girl") and her gaggle of friends I'm holding her hand and doing a little palm reading schtick that I'm mostly making up from a little of what I remember of a book I read and some basic cold reading, while stroking her arm and her friend is interrupting and wants me to read her palm. I've already number closed her before the palm bit started. I'm totally making the shit up, but now I should be consistent with the friend. I really lost control of the set in one sense, but this also wound up being huge social proof as everybody thought it was dead on (of course, it's a cold read after a few cold ones). The problem is getting into the bit with an obstacle and losing the target's attention. I'm struggling now to cut that thread and Mojo appears with "what's going on here?" He masterfully runs the rest of the set and I'm able to confirm with f.c.c. girl that it's on and say goodbye. After target leaves, two of her other friends (one cute) sucks me in to the palm reading. I totally could have number closed her, but didn't really have the balls to close 2 from the same set after building tension with the target.

The best friend obstacle was nice enough, but she shut down "Can I talk to your friend?" two times. That's my only isolation line and El Fenix coached me on just taking the hand and leading, which I'm going to try, but I think this chick would have followed. My read on obstacle's motives is (1) target was obstacle's ride and the big one (2) obstacle's fiance was so drunk she would be completely bored without target's company. I think she was won over from a trust perspective.

Any experience regarding ... (1) techniques to get around obstacles to isolation (other than the fact that Mojo can solidly occupy a set), (2) avoiding becoming a group performer, (3) the kiss close (just because I haven't done that yet), and (4) number closing two from the same set w/out coming off as sleazy.

Isolating a chick from a 2 set is a biotch. Get your wing to keep her busy, or fold in an adjacent set.

the only problem is your wing has to be 1) extremely competent, and 2) have attraction from the obstacle.

If those 2 things arent happening then you wont be able to isolate. Thats why 3+ sets rock.

best for this to pick the guy that looks most gay. That conversation between friends is also hillarious.

I arrive and see TheScientist running palm reading. TheScientist kindly points out the two women that are taken (I think he said they were married, or one of them were) except for his target. Since both women were taken and target already claimed, I simply went in to be friendly and have a good convo. Unfortunately, his target leaves. I run the blondeHB and AFC set as the other HB gets her palm read by TheScientist. He does a good job keeping her attention. As for my set, they reveal the positive things about Free Masonry. The guy is a Free Mason. Both are quite friendly and we have a good conversation. Her guy leaves and I tell her, her husband is a cool guy. She says he is not her husband and starts complaining about relationship issues.


As for isolating, once you know she is attracted take her hand and lead her to a more quiet and/or dark part of the venue. Tell her you want to show her something cool, try a cool experiment, be able to hear her better over the loud music, whatever. If she is attracted she will go with you. Her friends will have notice you two hitting it off and won’t cock-block, especially if you have won them over earlier.

Two sets are only as hard as you make them. If you think a two set is hard, it will be hard. If you think a two set is no big deal, then it will be easier. What you perceive becomes reality. Some strategies when dealing with two-sets:

Treat them as one set
Venue change, isolate, build comfort with both, they will eventually decide who will be the lucky girl to have you. And if your game is solid enough, you can take them both.

Have another guy occupy the other girl
Whether it is a friend you brought, a friend you just met that night, or some random guy. I had a two set, a random guy came in and occupied the other HB as I isolated her for a k-close then took my target to my car for further fun. Note that the guy was an AFC, never hooked up with the obstacle, but simply distracted her enough for me to work my mojo.

Instant wingman
Don’t have a wingman around to occupy the other girl, bring one in instantly. Guide the conversation where you get an excuse to bring in another guy. Say you are talking about fashion and you see some funky hat a guy is wearing, tell him to come in and ask the ladies what they think about the hat, or guide the convo where you need an opinion from another guy and bring him in.

These are just some examples that pop in my head. There are more. Two sets are not that hard and even bringing an AFC wingman can be effective.

Yeah, but if you bring in an AFC to distract the obstacle, he may not be able to hold the attention, and when you try and isolate the target the OB will do the whole "Dont leave me alone with this chump" thing.

at least thats what has happened in my experience

Finesse wrote:Yeah, but if you bring in an AFC to distract the obstacle, he may not be able to hold the attention, and when you try and isolate the target the OB will do the whole "Dont leave me alone with this chump" thing.

at least thats what has happened in my experience

Don't pick a chump...

Observe the potential wingman's body language and style first. Is he confident and dressed sharply? Is he standing there, looking aimlessly around, holding his bud light across the chest, hiding his polo shirt horsey? Choose your instant wingman carefully. Make sure he is cool enough to talk to you.