FR: Tuesday, 5-19-2009

[Guest]

I’m not sure if this is a legitimate pick-up, but I will let the community decide. After reading the FR, you will see why I have a litle doubt....and enjoy the long post! :)

So I had dinner with a couple friends last night in downtown Fort Worth. I was dressed “down” in a short sleeve button up, jeans and my classic black vans. I had no intentions of sarging, just enjoying time spent with friends over a few beers. We started out at Riscky’s BBQ with all you can eat ribs and they were excellent! We finished dinner at around 9:30p and decided to check out a bar at the Omni hotel called Whiskey and Rye. We walk inside and it was EMPTY, maybe 15 people all-together including us three; what can you expect it was a Tuesday night...

Instinctively, I scoped the place and see no potential sets at all, maybe the waitres(es), maybe I can game them just for fun...but ended up not doing anything besides a little harmless flirting...

I see a mixed three set, two older males and a HB7, playing pool and being extremely loud and obnoxious. I was trying to watch the Lakers game but this group was near the big screen so I couldn’t help but overhear and see what they were saying/doing.

Apparently, these guys are millionaires here on business; I didn’t believe it at first...

One guy, we’ll call Chode1, was kissing, touching and fondling the HB7; he was ALL OVER her and making extremely sexual remarks and overt sexual advances. The three set have been drinking and HB7 wants a cigarette, so she opens our group and says, “Hey, do you guys smoke?” And my friend replies with a smartass remark, “No, I only smoke on Sundays...” she laughs. She asks another guy and he too didn’t smoke. She’s disappointed and this compels Chode1 to take action!

Chode1: Does anyone in here smoke?! I’ll give someone 20 bucks for a cigarette!
Chode1: 50 bucks?!
[Silence. No response]
Chode1: Okay, well, how about 100?!
[Quick Silence]
Waitress: You’d give me 100 bucks for a cigarette? [She was surprised at the offer and so was I!]
Chode1: Yea...here you go...
[He hands her a bill, but I couldn’t make it out...I would later ask her and it was indeed a $100 bill. She also informs me that these Chodes are staying at the Omni and are millionaires; the Omni management told the bar staff to treat them very very VERY well...]

The waitress takes off and a little while later, returns with a box of cigarettes and matches. Chode1 and HB7 go outside to smoke. At this point, Chode2 was bored and noticed us watching the game and decided to chat with us. We exchange some sports talk for a few minutes and out of no where, he asks us if we wanted drinks; we accept without hesitation. He buys us a round of Jaeger and we all down it. Couple minutes later, he buys us another round! I figured this Chode is used to people beta-ing him so I do just that! I continued to “game” him and make him feel like he was the MAN so that I can have free drinks all night long!

Fifteen minutes and two shots later, HB7 returns without Chode1 and sees Chode2 talking to us (at our table)...BAM! Instant social proof! She and I exchange a few pleasantries and Chode2 and HB7 decide to finish their game of pool, but instead of playing pool, they’re playing tongue twister. I was like WTF?! She was just making out with Chode1!! A Couple of minutes later, Chode1 walks in and sees Chode2 locked face-to-face with HB7; shit is about to go down!!

He holds his arms apart and was like, “Dude, wtf...?” He’s shaking his head and laughing....Chode2 was also laughing. Chode1 approaches Chode2, exchanged a few words (not angry words) and a bit later, they step outside. I was floored, these guys were NOT angry at each other; they were congratulating each other if that makes any since..no so sure why they went outside, but I guess they wanted to talk about something...

The Chodes walk outside and leaves HB7 alone...she looks at me, so I do the “come hither motion” with my finger and she comes over. I was calm, cool, collected and confident; my body language was amazing. I was casually leaning into the chair and she was standing, talking to me...she’s had several drinks and was very talkative...I simply said hi and she starts blurting shit out...

HB7: That’s the problem with rich boys...they think they can have whatever they want...
Prodigy: What do you mean? Don’t you know those guys?
HB7: They think I’m going to have sex with them tonight...and yea I know them, but my company paid me to show them a good time so the business deal doesn’t fall through
Prodigy: Oh! Ooo...kkkk....I see what you’re saying.... [implying she’s a prostitute]
HB7: No, No, I’m not a whore...I’m only 20 [haha, like that’s justification!]
Prodigy: Wait! Wait, you’re only 20?! I would’ve guessed higher...
HB7: Haha, yea it’s funny, people always guess my mom is younger than she really is and they always say I’m older
Prodigy: hmm, that’s interesting...[I grab her hand] have a seat [she sits]
HB7: So how old are you?
Prodigy: Guess...
HB7: Um, 23, 24?
Prodigy: I’m 24, that’s a pretty good guess, how’d you know?
HB7: Because I’m smart!
Prodigy: haha! So I guess that’s not your real hair color then...[she’s blonde with highlights and lowlights]
HB7: Hell no! Look at these roots! and I was 100 pts shy of getting a perfect score on my SAT’s [side note: I don’t believe that, she’s probably lying]
Friend1: Really? I got 10 something. 1500 is really good...
Prodigy: That’s impressive but it looks like you’re going to need to re-do your hair [as I am saying this, I grab her hand, look at it] and a manicure while you’re at it
HB7: OMG! You’re soo mean...! [as she’s saying that, she’s laughing, she knew I was joking by the way I said it]

[she looks around then gets up. She’s nervous that she’d be caught talking to us and that they would get mad. As she is standing, I see a part of a tattoo on her thigh and kino escalate. I lift her shorts a little bit and say]
Prodigy: Hey what is that?
HB7: Oh it’s a koi fish, I love Asian culture [she lifts her shorts up and shows my friends and me the whole tat]
Friend2: That’s pretty cool, but I hate all things Asian...
HB7: hahaha, then why are you hanging out with him?
Friend2: We’re not really friends, we hate each other!
Prodigy: Wait, what?! I’m Asian?! No way!
[she is laughing hysterically when she stops there’s a pause... we lock eyes for a sec]
HB7: Hey, you should get my number before those guys come back...
Prodigy: Yea, what it is?
HB7: 817-***-**** [Score! Number close.]
HB7: So what are you?
Prodigy: What do you mean?
HB7: Like what kind of Asian are you?
Prodigy: Guess...
HB7: Korean? Chinese?
Prodigy: haha no...[don’t know why I always get Korean]
Friend1: No he’s Vietnamese

As my friend is saying this, the Chodes walk in. The conversation probably took 15 mins or so..

Chode2: Hey what’s up guys! Let’s get shots!
Chode1: Who are these guys?
Chode2: Oh yea, Chode1, these are my new friends, Prodigy, Friend1 and Friend2
Chode2: Prodigy, Friend1 and Friend2 this is Chode1

We exchange pleasantries and throughout the rest of the night, until the end of the Lakers game, we chilled with Chode2, shot some pool and got lots of free drinks; Chode2 even took care of our tab! Chode1 was trying to game HB7 and get her to come up to his hotel room. Not sure if he succeeded (probably did); they were still there when we left.

If Chode2 didn’t open us earlier in the night, I would have NEVER approached the set. Everything just worked out perfectly; she was into Asians (or maybe she was qualifying herself) and these rich guys were being douche bags, which only made me look better! The reason I had some doubt if this is a legitimate pick-up is because I got the vibe that she was a prostitute; I can’t say that for sure...Honestly, I don’t even know if I should text/call her...she made out with two dudes in one night and gave me her number...kind of whorish to me...not to mention she was pretty drunk, so I’m not so sure how solid the # close is...

Pros:
-I had good body language
-I was calm, cool and confident
-I was being social (I was also flirting with the waitress)
-Effective use of negs
-Good eye contact
-Tested her and made her jump through hoops

Cons:
-I did not have the killer instinct, I should’ve asked for her number, not the other way around.

Dinner at Riscky's: $20
7 drinks at Whiskey and Rye: $0 (thanks to Chode2)
Getting a girl's # when she was out with two millionaires? PRICELESS!

This is something I will tell for a looong time. All in all, it was an awesome night!

[Guest]

Well written.

If only all FR's could be like this one.

I would say there is a chance this girl not only slept with one but possibly both of those guys. When they went outside to talk I bet you anything they talked about it. Some guys just don't mind being a little gay and having the wrong kind of threesome.

It sounds like you ran near flawless game. Only thing that would have topped it is if she actually came back to your place after she left the millionaire losers. That would have been SOLID.

Don't you wish all sets could be this easy...

[Guest]

[quote1242875386=playercool]
Some guys just don't mind being a little gay and having the wrong kind of threesome.
[/quote1242875386]




EWWWWW!!!!!!!
I do not care if the chick is an 11 on a scale from 1 to 10!!! I would never do that!!!


On topic though, great field report Prodigy. I like the part where you out-gamed the millionaires :) Very nice!!!

[Guest]

Come on dude, you saw this girl making out with TWO guys and then as they were outside (congratulating themselves on the upcoming eiffel tower) she gave you her number. Red flag? Professional or amateur, this girl is a prostitute.

Use that same talent you have on some girl you haven't seen make out with 2 guys.

[Guest]

Regardless, whore or not, that was some pretty smooth ass game.
Be proud. That was also great FR. I HATE reading long ass posts/rants not spaced properly.
I diddnt even realize how long it wasi till I read it all. :)

Can't wait till My game gets to that level.

[Guest]

I really don't agree with Lion's perspective that this girl is somehow a slut and that that's bad. Is it better if her school voted her "most likely to get pregnant in the next 15 minutes" but you happen not to know? All girls who sleep with guys they met in bars are sluts. Even if not on the first night, still sluts. All women who have sex are sluts. Yay for sluts!

Second, I don't think it's bad that you got her number without asking. It's better to get numbers without asking. The only thing to watch for is playing it safe versus trying for it, but that depends on the situation and what you want to do.

[Guest]

[quote1243295313=Lion]

Use that same talent you have on some girl you haven't seen make out with 2 guys.
[/quote1243295313]

Just because you don't see it happen, doesn't mean that it doesn't.

[quote1243295696=Vector]
All women who have sex are sluts. Yay for sluts!

[/quote1243295696]

Agreed here, if you want to use the term slut, it should be applied to all who have sex. I think that makes about 98% of the world "sluts". Then where do you draw the line from normal to slutdom? 10 fucks, 30, 789?


For some reason there is a notion that if you don't find her at a bar but at the store instead, she is somehow a goody good girl. but if you see that same girl at the bar later that night she is a super slut. I have heard many dallas lair guys say [insert girl from a random fr] is just a bar whore. Every girl is a good girl and a bad girl, they have both sides to them. The most uptight librarian has some dirty things going on, and the most sexual liberated girl in fishnets and stilettos can have a nice, sweet side to her.

My thoughts are that we all have bad social programming. Many of us have a pretty bad case of madonna/whore complex. If we see a girl exchange numbers with 4 guys in a night she is dirty. But what if one of us exchanged our number with 4 different strangers in a night? We would be a ballin' pick up artist.

Humans are not monogamous by nature, that notion has been instilled into us by religion, which spills over into pop culture. Look at the goal of this community, to attract (and more than likely sleep with) multiple women. How are we any different than sluts? There are a ton of articles on this topic in the archives of mASF. I have read a few of those and it really does change your perspective on things.

At least that's my view on things.

[Guest]

Kinda wish I was a slut lol. At least sluts get laid.

[Guest]

[quote1243356359=Just/Us]
[quote1243295313=Lion]

Use that same talent you have on some girl you haven't seen make out with 2 guys.
[/quote1243295313]

Just because you don't see it happen, doesn't mean that it doesn't.

[quote1243295696=Vector]
All women who have sex are sluts. Yay for sluts!

[/quote1243295696]

Agreed here, if you want to use the term slut, it should be applied to all who have sex. I think that makes about 98% of the world "sluts". Then where do you draw the line from normal to slutdom? 10 fucks, 30, 789?


For some reason there is a notion that if you don't find her at a bar but at the store instead, she is somehow a goody good girl. but if you see that same girl at the bar later that night she is a super slut. I have heard many dallas lair guys say [insert girl from a random fr] is just a bar whore. Every girl is a good girl and a bad girl, they have both sides to them. The most uptight librarian has some dirty things going on, and the most sexual liberated girl in fishnets and stilettos can have a nice, sweet side to her.

My thoughts are that we all have bad social programming. Many of us have a pretty bad case of madonna/whore complex. If we see a girl exchange numbers with 4 guys in a night she is dirty. But what if one of us exchanged our number with 4 different strangers in a night? We would be a ballin' pick up artist.

Humans are not monogamous by nature, that notion has been instilled into us by religion, which spills over into pop culture. Look at the goal of this community, to attract (and more than likely sleep with) multiple women. How are we any different than sluts? There are a ton of articles on this topic in the archives of mASF. I have read a few of those and it really does change your perspective on things.

At least that's my view on things.
[/quote1243356359]

When you have met as many BAR FLY WHORES as I have you know the difference between slug bag whores and girls who just occasionally fuck around. There is a Huge difference Just/Us.