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The Unintentional Cold Read

PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:38 pm
by Guest
So I'm out with some friends the other night, and things are pretty dead where we're at.

Keep in mind my friends have no idea about gaming...what it is...how it works...etc.

About 20 minutes and a game of darts after I show up, this girl, HByellowdress, walks in and my friends smacks me shoulder and goes 'Damn, look!'. She was pretty cute, and my friend announced to the table that if it weren't for 'That guy who looks like her boyfriend', he'd be taking her home that night (yea right).

Anyway, I told him "Here's what you should do...". I take his napkin and write "Will you go out with me? Yes No" and circle Yes.
"Hand this to her...she'll laugh her ass off".

He looks at me like I'm crazy and says "Yea right, that'll work...". Another guy at the table laughs in agreement.
I shrug and we go back to our convo.

About 10 mins later, he had gone to the bathroom, and I happened to make eye contact with the girl.
I wave her over, hand her the folded napkin and say "What would you say if I told you my friend wanted to give you this but was too shy to?"
HByellowdress: "I'd say he needs to grow some balls and just come talk to me."
Me: "Damn, shes a feisty one!" (to my friends)
I look down at the note again.
Me: "But you DID circle yes..."

It was right here that one of the guys sitting at our table (friend of a friend, I only just met him) interrupts me and cockblocks me right to my face in front of her:
"Dude, you're bombing. Just give up, I told you that wasn't going to work. There's no way she would've gone for that."

Although everyone at the table was listening to him while he said it (including her), I just moved on like he hadn't said anything, and that did the trick.

I turned back to her and said something about how her left ear was higher than the other one and she just stares. She seemed intrigued to figure out what I was about.

She and I talk some fluff for a couple minutes (I think im getting better at that) and I tried to include everyone in our group, but they weren't contributing much to our convo...just listening. wtf?

Anyway, so my buddy is coming back from the bathroom, and I can see him approaching the table and gives me "what the hell?" look after seeing that chick standing with us. He approaches, and i grab her around the shoulders and say "Hey, this is Sarah. We go way back and we're pretty much in love."
Buddy: "Who?"
Me: "Sarah"
HByellowdress: (gives me a strange look..then goes along with it) "Yea, were going to run away together."

Mind you, I just completely made that name up. She hadn't told me her name before that.

Anyway, after that she goes and takes a call or whatever. About 5 minutes later she comes back and sits down with us.
I start talking to her again, and the rest of my group goes off on their own convo thread...so its just me and her talking now.

At one point she asks me "By the way, how did you know my name is Sarah?"
Me: "Im good like that"

The CockBlocker across from me heard that bit and turned when she asked me that question. I smiled at her, turned and smiled at him, then told her to "Get lost, you're cramping my style".

Things where going pretty well right up to this point. I had been pushing and pulling the whole way.

I'm not sure if it was the way I said it, my body lang, or if she was just some kind of bipolar, but I guess that was just too much of an over-neg push and she goes bitch-shit calling me a 'major dick' and storms off....hah! What a DLV for her.

Oh well, my friends keep bugging on how I knew her name....of course i don't give up my secret.

Silly kids, tricks are for rabbits.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:20 pm
by Guest
You are going to be good sir!

I love when new guys get out into this stuff and have no problem doing stuff like this. As 2nd grade as this is it worked. Sure you messed up towards the end but big deal.




PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:58 pm
by Guest
[quote1214434549=AlphaMo]

Anyway, I told him "Here's what you should do...". I take his napkin and write "Will you go out with me? Yes No" and circle Yes.
"Hand this to her...she'll laugh her ass off".

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I love this! I am getting bored with indirect openers and find myself going direct more and more often. I may try this if the opportunity arises.

I think the only way you could have gotten away with the line about her cramping your style is if you smile really big and poke her jokingly. You probably came off serious and and she did exactly what you said to do. But, that is how you learn. My 'negs' when I got started were fucking harsh and girls would just get pissed haha!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:24 am
by Guest
[quote1214460861=Sal Paradise]
My 'negs' when I got started were fucking harsh and girls would just get pissed haha!
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Heh, yea. So far I haven't really gotten 'Blown Out' because I can feel it coming so I eject first......(thats what she said).....

But there's really no lead-time when you 'over-neg', so you wind up with the full-impact hit and not too much warning which is tough.
I really probably should develop some tolerance to that.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:11 am
by Guest
Honestly, I think negs are WAY overused. I never use a neg in the traditional sense, I just tease lightly and smile while I am doing it. Things like "we would never get along," and "I can't even talk to you anymore." I usually come up with them on the spot so they are specific to her though. I don't think there is a need to say the harsh stuff.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:05 pm
by Guest
I find that harsh negs only work on super hot babes that are at least 9.5. Less attractive girls can't take harsh negs as well as really attractive girls do.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:47 pm
by Guest
The word "neg" is way overused. In my opinion, there's no such thing as a harsh neg. A neg is a negative COMPLIMENT.
[quote]PUA: Do you wear colored contacts?
HB: No.
PUA: Oh, your eyes are a really cool color. They almost don't look natural.[/quote]
That's a neg.

[quote]PUA: I could never marry you.
HB: Why?
PUA: Because we would have ugly children with big noses.[/quote]
That's a slap-in-the-face insult.

It's ok to show that you're willing to break rapport. Teasing is a fun way to do it. Telling her to go fuck herself does the job too, but that's not the point. A tease is not always a neg. Sometimes a tease is a neg (like "nice shoes, they look comfortable"). Sometimes a tease is a playful jab or takeaway (like "you're such a dork").

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:19 am
by Guest
IMPRESSIVE !! MY YOUNG PADAWAN LEARNER ... :)

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:58 pm
by Guest
this thread delivers.