Nah it didn't change anything. I think it relates back to the discussion before about LMR and whether the girl actually wants to sleep with you. In this case she really doesn't want to sleep with me, and it might be because of me or it might not. I should probably have mentioned that she has not yet let me kiss her.
I've been trying to avoid or escape LJBF-land by explicitly saying how I'm attracted to her, maintaining whatever sexual tension I can so it doesn't become platonic and comfortable.
The situation is basically the same as before. It's like she teases me, not deliberately, but by unconscious habit. After I tried this move she went to the other room and slept on the couch, apparently she slept naked but wrapped in a sheet, and in the morning she came and lay on the bed still naked wrapped in the sheet. As soon as she woke up she put clothes on.
It definitely didn't screw me over. She treats me the same as before. And anyway she's leaving town in a few days so it's definitely worth trying whatever.
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by Guest » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:58 pm
no disrespect intended Vector, just being straight up with you, but why are you letting a girl you met on last wed, stay with you since last thursday? at what point does "just a couple more days" get cut off? why is HER problem(drama with ex boyfriend) now your problem and this is a girl you aren't sleeping with or even hooking up with? Most importantly(the 'buy a drink litmus test'), would you do the same thing for a RANDOM guy that you met the night before? If not, then you are doing something in hopes of getting something in return....which es no bueno
just rhetorical questions, don't need answers, but just something i hope you have asked yourself and have satisfactory answers for yourself...
just rhetorical questions, don't need answers, but just something i hope you have asked yourself and have satisfactory answers for yourself...
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by Guest » Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:50 pm
Yeah I guess it's true, I am doing it with hopes of getting something, but I don't see it as an exchange, more like trying to set up conditions so it could "just happen". But yeah she might be reluctant because she might perceive it as an exchange. She leaves the day after tomorrow.
And she does cook and clean for me, so it's not so bad...
And she does cook and clean for me, so it's not so bad...
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by Guest » Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:21 am
[quote1219237877=Vector]
The situation is basically the same as before. It's like she teases me, not deliberately, but by unconscious habit. After I tried this move she went to the other room and slept on the couch, apparently she slept naked but wrapped in a sheet, and in the morning she came and lay on the bed still naked wrapped in the sheet. As soon as she woke up she put clothes on.
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Don't forget that she was a stripper! She developed that "unconscious habit" of teasing at her job. She knows what to do to get what she wants out of men without giving it up.
The situation is basically the same as before. It's like she teases me, not deliberately, but by unconscious habit. After I tried this move she went to the other room and slept on the couch, apparently she slept naked but wrapped in a sheet, and in the morning she came and lay on the bed still naked wrapped in the sheet. As soon as she woke up she put clothes on.
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Don't forget that she was a stripper! She developed that "unconscious habit" of teasing at her job. She knows what to do to get what she wants out of men without giving it up.
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by Guest » Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:44 am
-I don't know the emotional state of this girl but if she has ex bf issues she prolly isn't in the mood for sex. She probably still has some emotional attachment to him and isn't interested in sex with you at this point.
-Just because she took her shirt off doesn't really mean a whole lot in the case of a stripper. (normal girl, definitely yes) Understand she worked a job where she constantly took her clothes off and sat around and conversed with guys with her tits hanging out. She's comfortable in this environment. After you do it enough times its not really a sexual thing.
-A lot of strippers drink heavily, for some its how they numb the pain of their unhappiness.
-You were probably the millionth guy to feel her tits, again shes a stripper thats not a very special treat she was offering. If ya told me you fingered her then yeah not every stripper will let you stick a few in dah goo.
-Not to bust your bubble but Strippers are famous for being users. She played ya buddy. I've been in your shoes before with these ho's. Understand that in the stripper business money is easy come easy go......so her paying for things don't mean shit to her. Just consider that rent money.
That stripper lifestyle never totally leaves a girl. They'll always have some fucked up stripper tendencies in them. Its just like "HOtel CAlifornia" you can check out but you can never leave.
These types will always use just enough sex to get what they want. I think the only way you might have had a chance is ignoring her "tricks" until she practically had to spread her legs to get what she wanted.
-Just because she took her shirt off doesn't really mean a whole lot in the case of a stripper. (normal girl, definitely yes) Understand she worked a job where she constantly took her clothes off and sat around and conversed with guys with her tits hanging out. She's comfortable in this environment. After you do it enough times its not really a sexual thing.
-A lot of strippers drink heavily, for some its how they numb the pain of their unhappiness.
-You were probably the millionth guy to feel her tits, again shes a stripper thats not a very special treat she was offering. If ya told me you fingered her then yeah not every stripper will let you stick a few in dah goo.
-Not to bust your bubble but Strippers are famous for being users. She played ya buddy. I've been in your shoes before with these ho's. Understand that in the stripper business money is easy come easy go......so her paying for things don't mean shit to her. Just consider that rent money.
That stripper lifestyle never totally leaves a girl. They'll always have some fucked up stripper tendencies in them. Its just like "HOtel CAlifornia" you can check out but you can never leave.
These types will always use just enough sex to get what they want. I think the only way you might have had a chance is ignoring her "tricks" until she practically had to spread her legs to get what she wanted.
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by Guest » Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:04 am
Good point! I have no experience gaming strippers but I would imagine that they have a similar realization to we do when we realize the power of game. In other words, they have learned the power that their sexuality holds over guys and even if they try not to use it, it is always there and it is tempting to use.
Similarly, since I have gotten better at gaming girls, it is hard not to flirt with just about every girl. The reaction that you get from girls (even if you are not trying to lay them) is addicting. It is fun to see their interest increase as you use a line or story that you have used 100 times or make up a new one using principles you have learned in the game.
Girls get attention from the opposite sex primarily through their looks and sexuality. Strippers have learned to hone both to attract men and it probably becomes a part of their interactional style if they have been stripping long enough.
Similarly, since I have gotten better at gaming girls, it is hard not to flirt with just about every girl. The reaction that you get from girls (even if you are not trying to lay them) is addicting. It is fun to see their interest increase as you use a line or story that you have used 100 times or make up a new one using principles you have learned in the game.
Girls get attention from the opposite sex primarily through their looks and sexuality. Strippers have learned to hone both to attract men and it probably becomes a part of their interactional style if they have been stripping long enough.
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by Guest » Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:56 am
Yeah, I have to agree with all of the above. Feeling her tits was not in a sexual way, but more of a matter-of-fact sort of way. She did say that if it weren't for her recent breakup, she would have sex with me, but who knows whether that's true or not, and even if it were true, it doesn't help me.
Oh well, lesson learned.
Oh well, lesson learned.
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by Guest » Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:50 pm
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take her out and use her for social proof
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Lol i tried to do that on Monday but she doesn't have ID, and we couldn't get in to Blackfinn. This girl has more issues than I thought was possible for one person to have.
take her out and use her for social proof
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Lol i tried to do that on Monday but she doesn't have ID, and we couldn't get in to Blackfinn. This girl has more issues than I thought was possible for one person to have.
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