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Bro the important thing is that you learn from this, and it looks like you have. So from that angle, you at least took something from your experience last night. I used to try to sarge drunk and it was hard as hell. In most cases you need your mind relatively sharp in order to close any type of high quality girl. Uptown seems to have a high concentration of those, so its no wonder that your night ended up as it did. I ended up number closing a pretty good looking chick last night, but it took a LOT of effort and concentration...much more than whats usually required at Sherlock's. But if its any consolation, you did look money with that blazer on.

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Haha yeah that's what i'm saying lol.
Remember the night I got super tipsy with u, vector, pc, and others were out?

Well.. I was doin basically the samething 3 that u did.

1)WHen you drink, you can't think straight... so I mumbled and couldn't have any decent convos or long ones.

2)I leaned in way too much, too like I was bout to kiss her.

3) I came across way too easy. Therefore, failing every shit tests.

haha u can drink but don't get messed up. :)

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2.) Leaning WAYYY in to deliver direct opener like "HEEEEEEYY...baby. I just had to had to come and muh muh meet you" like 2 inches from her face.


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Damn where was I? That is just hilarious.

Ohh and I got blown out like crazy last night as well. Even with girls that were flat out into me. Something in the water at Social. Of course I did walk into my house last night and go to sleep instantly with every single bit of clothing I had on for the night...yes even my shoes(Poss the drunkest I have ever been).

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So, I actually read your post when I got home last night, and had a really good tough-love, shut-the-hell-up-and-get-back-out-there response queued up (that I refused to submit until morning, when I could read it sober and approve of)....but the jist of it was for you to take your own advice and learn from the shitty nights rather than sit on them and get pissed.
Thats 100x more productive.

....but by the time I re-read things today, it seemed like you had already acknowledged that as the case (plus my response quoted yours), so I scrapped my reply.

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3.) Shit tests. I don't have much experience with them but for some reason all the girls last night were shit testing me to hell and high water.

They were trying to screen out the "player" guys, in retrospect.
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As far as that goes....holy shit, did you hear/remember that damn brunette at the end of the night dig into me for a good 10 mins?
Even with you winging and chattin up the short blonde friend, I still couldn't believe I was able to isolate and # her.
She was probably a 7...maybe 7.5, but I honestly just wanted to see if I could do it.
(I think PC challenged me to open that set saying no one else had pulled it yet...I went into fuck-it mode and just figured I'd give it a try)

You're totally right about the screening out the 'player' guys stuff. Almost everything she said was an attempt to call me out on trying to pick her up.

Me: "So are you gunna tell me your name?"
Her: "My name is Bertha"
Me: "Bertha? Hahaha, nice...please I think I need to see some ID"
Her: "What?? I don't have to justify myself to you...I dont know you...."
(blah blah blah)

Seriously, I'm completely amazed at myself right now for pulling past that....I didn't think I had it in me.
Though, I have to admit that PC's challenge had something to do with it....I do my best under moderate pressure.

The biggest thing that got me through all of it was not letting any of it phase me and this line right here (which I think I turned to you and said so that she could hear me):

"Man, she's feisty! I think she likes me....we might like each other a little bit...I dunno"

This is one of the best examples that I can remember where I wasn't in my own head analyzing what I was doing....I just said that cause it seemed to fit the flow and teased her playfully.
It was amazing to see her attitude change after that.




But lastly, Grimm, I've got to commend you on that excessively badass comment you made to my mohawk friend at the end of the night...right to his face.
Haha! He needed putting into his place (he was pretty drunk too), and you did just that.
My respect for you rose a good 2 points right then and there.

All in all, I actually had a fairly good night...but I couldn't have been nearly as hammered as you guys.

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PC,

I don't remember man, last night is kind of fuzzy.


AlphaMO,

Man I have so many blank spots in my memory of last night honestly i don't remember so much. I didn't let myself go to sleep last night until I had pieced together enough of my sets to figure out what i did wrong, but otherwise I have very little memory left of the night. Which is another reason drunk sarging is not so good.

Your one-liner there is awesome dude, frames things nicely.

You did great last night man.

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Me: "So are you gunna tell me your name?"
Her: "My name is Bertha"
Me: "Bertha? Hahaha, nice...please I think I need to see some ID"
Her: "What?? I don't have to justify myself to you...I dont know you...."
(blah blah blah)
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One little thing on this. My standard policy is NEVER ask for their name.

You have nothing to gain and everything to lose(like in this example). let them ask YOU for your name! it's a good way to gauge how the set is going if they ask you as well. Let's say they do tell you, what does someone gain by knowing a random strangers name in the first couple seconds??

and it DOES register with them that you do NOT ask...the girl in my "out of town adventure" FR commented on that later in the night, how I did not ask for her name for the first hour we were hanging out(and i never did, she had to ask me). it jumps out at them.

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I agree with TopDog.

I never ask their name, never.

In my opinion, if a chick likes you she's going to ask your name. It's her way of saying, Ok I don't know you but I want to so let's start with the very basics.

If you ask first, then you loose a road marker in the interaction. You take away a super easy way for a girl to implicitly tell you that she's interested.

Same thing goes with touching. I don't ever touch first.

Sounds like Saturday was off the hook guys. I need to do more Uptown sarging...chicks in Uptown are so fucking fickle.

As for the comments about booze...I do MUCH better when I'm SLIGHTLY tippsy. Truth is that I do EVERYTHING just a little better while I'm tippsy...even went to the gym a couple of times to see if my performance is a better, it is. Weird as shit I know, and purely mental.

Having said that, I'm going to start sarging sober. It'll be interesting to see how that works out.

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If you run INDIRECT never and I mean NEVER ask a girl her name. I used to the do this all the time. Like others have said she will eventually ask your name and this is your clue that you are probably doing something right.

I run DIRECT almost exclusively now so it is actually part of my game to ask her name. I am already going direct so IMO asking the girl her name is just an extension of saying YES I like you.

In either interaction you can do something funny if the set is going extremely well. Just stick your hand out like you want to shake hers. 90% of the time the girl will shake your hand and introduce HERSELF. Depending on how you want to go just say ahh nice to meet you WITHOUT saying your name. Yep you guessed it she will say what is your name.

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[quote1219079754=playercool]I run DIRECT almost exclusively now so it is actually part of my game to ask her name. I am already going direct so IMO asking the girl her name is just an extension of saying YES I like you.[/quote1219079754]

Yeah, I can definitely see where this would work well. I almost never run direct game, maybe once or twice ever...primarily because I very rarely see a girl and immediately want to talk to them. I generally determine who my target is while I'm in mid set so it's hard to open up a set (2 or more girls) and go direct on all of them.

Maybe I'll hone my direct, sober sarging skills over the coming weeks. Why the hell not right?

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I gotta jump on the "I was so drunk sat night" boat. I was so drunk Saturday night, I don't remember any girls you guys talked to. PC I remember that hottie african (I hate you). I told her that she had a puffy dress and then she rolled up to you and asked you if her dress was too puffy. Beautifully played my friend.

I did run into an old FB of mine. I was walking up to her to hit on her when it dawned on me that I've known her for several years. We could have pulled her and her friend back to the hot-tub, no problem.

Anyway, I'm so fucking glad we didn't try and drive home. I was sitting in the backseat trying not to throw up. No matter how drunk I am, whenever I get home I take off all my clothes and put them neatly in their place. And then I immediately passed out.