Last weekend I went out with BR, Lion, Prodigy, PC, and homeboy from Wisconsin (whose name I'm having trouble remembering). It was my first meetup with anyone from the community, and after a shaky start, replete with a power outage and a couple of venue changes leading up to about 12:30, we ended up at Black Friar in Uptown.
Now, I'll be honest, by this point in the night I was feeling a bit drunk. Probably too drunk, but it had been a while since I'd been out so I guess it was to be expected. All I really remember, as far as interactions go, is a couple of 4's trying to playfully talk about fighting to get past me, and then making a passing comment to another couple girls walking past playercool and I. I remember him saying something to the effect of "that's what's I would've said," but I didn't really have any follow-up and they were on the way to the bathroom.
The high point of the night was standing near the bar getting beckoned over by a (correct me if I'm wrong) HB 7.5 or 8 and her cute friend, though at this point I couldn't tell you much about them other than being short with dark hair. After some back and forth beckoning, I went over and opened, then bullshitted for a few minutes about god knows what, then for reasons unknown ejected to the bathroom. I think my line of thought at the time was that things were going well enough that doing a takeaway seemed well-timed, but it backfired when I came back to them having left and the bar emptying out. I'm pretty sure had I been more aware of the time I would've had a good opportunity to close, unless I misread things, which is entirely possible. Also, looking back it seems like it might have gone better if one of the dudes had come up to assist since it was a 2 girl set, but maybe one of them was more atrocious then my brain is allowing me to remember, haha.
Anyway, I seem to remember one of you guys saying you were observing, so I'm open to seeing some opinions, as well as any recommendations on where to start getting a bank of material down, because I was just fluff talking most of the night. Fun times regardless!
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by Guest » Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:37 am
I used to eject early on because I was nervous, ran out of things to say , or was flat out scared. my advice is to have 3-5 warmup sets of people you don't know , guys , girls, whatever. this will get you in a talkative state. Then when you're in "uncharted waters" , KEEP GOING, this is the only way you will advance your game.
Props for going out and opening a set.
Props for going out and opening a set.
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by Guest » Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:38 pm
Sounds like a typical night...well other than that fact that only nasties seemed to be in attendance that night at Friar. I don't recall it ever being that bad.
As far as material I am not certain what direction to point you. I too suffer from the umm what do I say now problem. Shooting the shit about random shit if you can pull it off usually works best IMO. Basically talking about absolutely nothing and everything at the same time. I used to write notes and put them in my pocket and bring them with me when I went out. I never used them. I now write down stuff in the notes section of my phone...I never use them.
One good thing to use though is instead of asking a question make a statement. So let's say the girl's drink is empty or she doesn't have a drink. Instead of saying what do you like to drink say I bet you are a vodka cranberry drinker(Please note I am not implying you should buy her a drink). Instead of asking her how old she is say I bet you are 22. I like to make these statements and try to be correct. Girls love it when you guess what they do, who they are, etc, and of course conversation naturally progresses off these assumptions.
On another note girls walking by are low investment targets. Low investment on your part which often yields a low return. Stopping a girl in her tracks, especially when she is on her way to the pisser can be tuff. You might get them to stop for a split second, so make sure you have something witty to keep them in place.
Glad you made it out. Come on out anytime.
As far as material I am not certain what direction to point you. I too suffer from the umm what do I say now problem. Shooting the shit about random shit if you can pull it off usually works best IMO. Basically talking about absolutely nothing and everything at the same time. I used to write notes and put them in my pocket and bring them with me when I went out. I never used them. I now write down stuff in the notes section of my phone...I never use them.
One good thing to use though is instead of asking a question make a statement. So let's say the girl's drink is empty or she doesn't have a drink. Instead of saying what do you like to drink say I bet you are a vodka cranberry drinker(Please note I am not implying you should buy her a drink). Instead of asking her how old she is say I bet you are 22. I like to make these statements and try to be correct. Girls love it when you guess what they do, who they are, etc, and of course conversation naturally progresses off these assumptions.
On another note girls walking by are low investment targets. Low investment on your part which often yields a low return. Stopping a girl in her tracks, especially when she is on her way to the pisser can be tuff. You might get them to stop for a split second, so make sure you have something witty to keep them in place.
Glad you made it out. Come on out anytime.
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by Guest » Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:39 pm
I to used to suffer from the "umm what do I say now " problem. I solved this in two ways. I normally now open with "Hey, I am curious about X, blah blah." I got this off of Zan Perrions stuff. However, when I run into that moment where I dont know what to say, I go to my 2 all purpose multistep openers with DHV built in. Because you are essentially starting a new conversation.
A multistep opener is like the 5 oceans opener. First you challenge about the 5 oceans, then you step again and transition into planets and astrology. This will make it appear as if your vibing with them and going off into a new direction.
The other way I handle this is to throw a pebble (like, "you are such a powerpuff girl"), stop, continue the flow of conversation and then revisit it when I hit that moment. ("I knew you where a powerpuff girl, you know why, blah blah blah")
Combining the two steps also works pretty well.
A multistep opener is like the 5 oceans opener. First you challenge about the 5 oceans, then you step again and transition into planets and astrology. This will make it appear as if your vibing with them and going off into a new direction.
The other way I handle this is to throw a pebble (like, "you are such a powerpuff girl"), stop, continue the flow of conversation and then revisit it when I hit that moment. ("I knew you where a powerpuff girl, you know why, blah blah blah")
Combining the two steps also works pretty well.
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