My 1 year LTR ended about a week ago and I'll be honest, I'm full of fucking AA... So I return humbly and better prepared than ever...
I was out @ Quarter Bar last Thursday with a friend, who is not apart of the community (I guess you could say neither am I).
There was a huge party reserved upstairs for a plethora of cocky, well dressed, law students who just passed the bar exam. We walked right up and into the party like we were supposed to be there...
The first thing I noticed; as soon as we walked into the bar, everyone always looks at you (male and female). I always pick up on this but havent been taking advantage due to being in a relationship... So I quickly recalled the importance of the 3 sec rule.
What I did, is walk thru from one side to the other locking eyes with chics but not opening one fucking person.
What I noticed is, once you enter a room and people scan you, they sort of categorize you and get comfortable with your presence. If you move around w/in the bar, go to the bathroom, go outside and get some fresh air (smoke), and then reenter... people/chics don't look at you like they first did because your face/presence is familiar.
So my buddy and I sat down in the back of the room and I began to explain this phemomina to him over a beer. I decided we were to go back downstairs and if anyone, guy or girl locked eyes, we were to immediately open them and begin socializing with the room.
We proceeded. As I expected, people looked at us again, scanning and categorizing, and we opened anyone and everyone and began making friends and cutting up. We linked groups together and created a really good buzz that wasnt initially there...
We quickly experienced proximity. I informed my friend and we rolled off our convos and opened the two-set.
It opened flawlessly. I don't remember what I said, but It didnt matter much. It was very obvious they wanted to be opened by us and only us.
My buddy (unknowingly) isolated his chic (hb6) and I isolated mine (hb8). I was thinking ahhh wth, good practice. I knew I had her within the first 5 minutes when she frowned as I was lighting up a cigarrette stating that "it was disgusting" and I somehow convinced her to grab one and smoke with me. :)
There were several occasions in the night where, if I stopped paying attention to her by engaging in a convo with someone else, she would break rapport and try to drag her friend away to another room. Like a little fucking brat!
The first time I said:
"Hey, you know I know why you are doing that."
Her: "Doing what?"
Me: "Running away!
Her: "I"m not running away! :)"
and she came back to continue talking.
The other times she broke rapport, I would counter-break-rapport as soon as we were building comfort again to make her chase....and she did.
I casually kissed her 3 different times in the night, no tongue. Just enough to keep her wanting more...
We ended up bouncing the chics to Cafe Brazil in petersprings and continued having excellent convo.
I dropped her off at her apartment and gave her a hug and avoided any sexual escalation or kiss. She looked dissapointed as she walked off...
She texted me at like 4:00 a.m. "kiss me soon!"
All in all it was a very good night and flowed very naturally. It was good to get out and start running game again. I thought about maybe waiting an extended period of time to grieve over my situation but, decided that would be retarded. I have to keep rolling.
Now, Friday (next day) she texted me asking me to go to her friends Bday party. I declined only because it was going to be a huge group of girls and I would be the only guy there... In the past I would usually avoid this type of situation because from my experience, the chics friends will shit test the hell out of you. And if you don't handle it perfectly, it can kill the attraction with the girl especially if the foundation is shaky.
Anyways...
NOW, here I am on Saturday night, typing my field rapport, with no GIRLS, and absolutely nothing to do!!! Sucky... lol!
This is going to change REALLY soon! Its good to be back.
Dallas PUA
The Pickup Artist Playground
1st time out 1 wk after 1yr LTR ended
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by Guest » Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:32 pm
That instant categorization that you are describing is interesting. Kevin Hogan describes that and I have experienced it first hand as well. After reading Hogan's book, (The Science of Influence), and then reading BradP's fashion bible I finally understood what was happening (Hogan) and how to influence it (Brad P) when I was by myself and when I was with a group. I tested this and it DOES work without a doubt. It is easier to open people or they will open you. Since putting this into practice I have had women open me out of the blue and also I have been treated with more overall respect by others. Yes Sirs/No Sirs, People holding doors open for me, etc. They just seem to assume I am powerful and important. I even had a woman tell me that she was intimidated by me before I opened her. I was blown away by this because no one had ever told me that before. It's really pretty cool.
The categories that Hogan describes are YES, YES/MAYBE, NO/MAYBE and NO. He goes further to state that they are subconscious assignments that happen as soon as someone see's you and before you say a single word. The good or bad part is that they influence the entire shape of the interaction that you have with that person. If you can walk in to a room and because of your dress, grooming, your campany (the people with you) and physical presence get categorizes as YES or YES/MAYBE your job is infinitely easier than if you walk into a room and your in the NO/MAYBE or NO realm.
I have heard girls describe this also. They call it the "Hover" test. It was described to me in this way. When she first see's you, she imagines you Hovering over her as if you were making love to her. If she can see that, then your in, if not, it's a long and hard road to climb.
I like Hogan's description of this effect better, but either one applies. That is why Brad P's fashion bible is the BOMB. It teaches you what to do (if you don't already know) to make that initial YES or YES/MAYBE impression.
The categories that Hogan describes are YES, YES/MAYBE, NO/MAYBE and NO. He goes further to state that they are subconscious assignments that happen as soon as someone see's you and before you say a single word. The good or bad part is that they influence the entire shape of the interaction that you have with that person. If you can walk in to a room and because of your dress, grooming, your campany (the people with you) and physical presence get categorizes as YES or YES/MAYBE your job is infinitely easier than if you walk into a room and your in the NO/MAYBE or NO realm.
I have heard girls describe this also. They call it the "Hover" test. It was described to me in this way. When she first see's you, she imagines you Hovering over her as if you were making love to her. If she can see that, then your in, if not, it's a long and hard road to climb.
I like Hogan's description of this effect better, but either one applies. That is why Brad P's fashion bible is the BOMB. It teaches you what to do (if you don't already know) to make that initial YES or YES/MAYBE impression.
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by Guest » Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:17 pm
[QUOTE=Carnal;38334]I dropped her off at her apartment and gave her a hug and avoided any sexual escalation or kiss. She looked dissapointed as she walked off...[/QUOTE]
Why didn't you escalate? Playing hard to get is one thing, but this girl is in your car. It's your job to try to fuck her, that's what men do. Girls play hard to get, men play I'm going to get you.
Why didn't you escalate? Playing hard to get is one thing, but this girl is in your car. It's your job to try to fuck her, that's what men do. Girls play hard to get, men play I'm going to get you.
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by Guest » Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:54 pm
[QUOTE=Bull Run;38341]Why didn't you escalate? Playing hard to get is one thing, but this girl is in your car. It's your job to try to fuck her, that's what men do. Girls play hard to get, men play I'm going to get you.[/QUOTE]
C'mon BR... Easy Tiger, whether he thinks he missed an opportunity or not he doesn't need a reminder like that. Sounds like he did pretty good after being out of the game for a year. Maybe he wasn't as keen to the non-verbal hints that she wanted him to try. Hindsight is 20/20 and from the tone of his post he is making a humble request for perspective and insight.
"I'm full of fucking AA... So I return humbly and better prepared than ever... "
I saw him the next night and I could already tell his in set confidence and trademark strong body language are returning, the killer instict won't be far behind.
Carnal, bro you are the one that told me to always go as far as a girl will let you go. I seriousely doubt this had anything to do confidence, jitters maybe or unfamiliraity with a situation that used to be comfortable but feels new again. Either way, who fuckin cares. Glad you're back
C'mon BR... Easy Tiger, whether he thinks he missed an opportunity or not he doesn't need a reminder like that. Sounds like he did pretty good after being out of the game for a year. Maybe he wasn't as keen to the non-verbal hints that she wanted him to try. Hindsight is 20/20 and from the tone of his post he is making a humble request for perspective and insight.
"I'm full of fucking AA... So I return humbly and better prepared than ever... "
I saw him the next night and I could already tell his in set confidence and trademark strong body language are returning, the killer instict won't be far behind.
Carnal, bro you are the one that told me to always go as far as a girl will let you go. I seriousely doubt this had anything to do confidence, jitters maybe or unfamiliraity with a situation that used to be comfortable but feels new again. Either way, who fuckin cares. Glad you're back
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by Guest » Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:27 pm
[QUOTE=Ram;38342]C'mon BR... Easy Tiger, whether he thinks he missed an opportunity or not he doesn't need a reminder like that. Sounds like he did pretty good after being out of the game for a year. Maybe he wasn't as keen to the non-verbal hints that she wanted him to try. Hindsight is 20/20 and from the tone of his post he is making a humble request for perspective and insight.
"I'm full of fucking AA... So I return humbly and better prepared than ever... "
I saw him the next night and I could already tell his in set confidence and trademark strong body language are returning, the killer instict won't be far behind.
Carnal, bro you are the one that told me to always go as far as a girl will let you go. I seriousely doubt this had anything to do confidence, jitters maybe or unfamiliraity with a situation that used to be comfortable but feels new again. Either way, who fuckin cares. Glad you're back[/QUOTE]
I'm not berating the guy or anything. Just curious as to what he thinks stopped him from going in for the kill. Seems to me that he had all kinds of green lights to escalate.
As for the AA, that's always the worst part of Game. To me, after the initial approach, the rest is all down hill.
On a seperate note, why only go as far as the girl is willing to let you?
It's a MILLION times better to go too far and have her say no than to not go far enough. If she isn't saying no, then you haven't gone nearly far enough.
"I'm full of fucking AA... So I return humbly and better prepared than ever... "
I saw him the next night and I could already tell his in set confidence and trademark strong body language are returning, the killer instict won't be far behind.
Carnal, bro you are the one that told me to always go as far as a girl will let you go. I seriousely doubt this had anything to do confidence, jitters maybe or unfamiliraity with a situation that used to be comfortable but feels new again. Either way, who fuckin cares. Glad you're back[/QUOTE]
I'm not berating the guy or anything. Just curious as to what he thinks stopped him from going in for the kill. Seems to me that he had all kinds of green lights to escalate.
As for the AA, that's always the worst part of Game. To me, after the initial approach, the rest is all down hill.
On a seperate note, why only go as far as the girl is willing to let you?
It's a MILLION times better to go too far and have her say no than to not go far enough. If she isn't saying no, then you haven't gone nearly far enough.
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by Guest » Mon Nov 08, 2010 5:08 pm
[QUOTE=Bull Run;38343]On a seperate note, why only go as far as the girl is willing to let you?
It's a MILLION times better to go too far and have her say no than to not go far enough. If she isn't saying no, then you haven't gone nearly far enough.[/QUOTE]
I think they have a word for going farther than she is wiling to let you, Oh yeah "rape". But don't worry I did some research and it isn't illegal annymore cause they rapin everybody down here.
I see your point and that's very true. I haven't gotten annywhere the times I was passive
It's a MILLION times better to go too far and have her say no than to not go far enough. If she isn't saying no, then you haven't gone nearly far enough.[/QUOTE]
I think they have a word for going farther than she is wiling to let you, Oh yeah "rape". But don't worry I did some research and it isn't illegal annymore cause they rapin everybody down here.
I see your point and that's very true. I haven't gotten annywhere the times I was passive
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by Guest » Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:05 pm
[QUOTE=Ram;38345][QUOTE=Bull Run]On a seperate note, why only go as far as the girl is willing to let you?
It's a MILLION times better to go too far and have her say no than to not go far enough. If she isn't saying no, then you haven't gone nearly far enough.[/QUOTE]
I think they have a word for going farther than she is wiling to let you, Oh yeah "rape". But don't worry I did some research and it isn't illegal annymore cause they rapin everybody down here.
I see your point and that's very true. I haven't gotten annywhere the times I was passive.[/QUOTE]
That's not rape. BR said, keep going until she says no, that is not the same as going until she says no...then keep on going.
I think everyone on this board knows you are better off to take a chance and escalate then to do nothing at all. Playing it safe will get you nowhere in this game.
Roissy, our PUA role model said the same thing in his 16 commandments -
[QUOTE=Roissy][B]XIII. Err on the side of too much boldness, rather than too little[/B]
Touching a woman inappropriately on the first date will get you further with her than not touching her at all. Don’t let a woman’s faux indignation at your boldness sway you; they secretly love it when a man aggressively pursues what he wants and makes his sexual intentions known. You don’t have to be an asshole, but if you have no choice, being an inconsiderate asshole beats being a polite beta, every time.[/QUOTE]
But of course that is all easier said than done, especially when you analyze shit too much.
It's a MILLION times better to go too far and have her say no than to not go far enough. If she isn't saying no, then you haven't gone nearly far enough.[/QUOTE]
I think they have a word for going farther than she is wiling to let you, Oh yeah "rape". But don't worry I did some research and it isn't illegal annymore cause they rapin everybody down here.
I see your point and that's very true. I haven't gotten annywhere the times I was passive.[/QUOTE]
That's not rape. BR said, keep going until she says no, that is not the same as going until she says no...then keep on going.
I think everyone on this board knows you are better off to take a chance and escalate then to do nothing at all. Playing it safe will get you nowhere in this game.
Roissy, our PUA role model said the same thing in his 16 commandments -
[QUOTE=Roissy][B]XIII. Err on the side of too much boldness, rather than too little[/B]
Touching a woman inappropriately on the first date will get you further with her than not touching her at all. Don’t let a woman’s faux indignation at your boldness sway you; they secretly love it when a man aggressively pursues what he wants and makes his sexual intentions known. You don’t have to be an asshole, but if you have no choice, being an inconsiderate asshole beats being a polite beta, every time.[/QUOTE]
But of course that is all easier said than done, especially when you analyze shit too much.
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by Guest » Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:08 pm
I was wondering if I was going to get any feedback on this or not!
I want to be better than ever this go around soo please feel free to give me all the constructive feedback you guys have to offer from here on out. I have nothing to loose and everything to gain.
Come to find out the girls step father is a BIG wig @ the company that I work for so that was defo one of the reasons why I didnt try to fuck her. I didnt mention this in the FR. She has a masters degree and is a writer for some some pr news social media gig. I need to keep her around... I've never been able to date a chic for any length of time that was a SNL.
To be honest, I havent been the best person I could've been in the past year of my life. Not to my ex gf, not to my friends. And what I ended up with after breaking up with the girl... alienation. I alienated myself because my head was soo far up that girls ass.
So now I want to build a really big social circle and make and keep really good friends around me at all times and never shit out on them again.
Those are some of the reasons why I didnt pursure her that night.
I want to be better than ever this go around soo please feel free to give me all the constructive feedback you guys have to offer from here on out. I have nothing to loose and everything to gain.
Come to find out the girls step father is a BIG wig @ the company that I work for so that was defo one of the reasons why I didnt try to fuck her. I didnt mention this in the FR. She has a masters degree and is a writer for some some pr news social media gig. I need to keep her around... I've never been able to date a chic for any length of time that was a SNL.
To be honest, I havent been the best person I could've been in the past year of my life. Not to my ex gf, not to my friends. And what I ended up with after breaking up with the girl... alienation. I alienated myself because my head was soo far up that girls ass.
So now I want to build a really big social circle and make and keep really good friends around me at all times and never shit out on them again.
Those are some of the reasons why I didnt pursure her that night.
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