im extremely tired so ill make this field report relatively short....So I meet this chick at BJs Brewery and pizzeria...I highly recommend taking a girl there for a day2 or even beyond that..great place with great beer and pizza and all the sports in the world on TV...as we meet and talk i kept it very light and funny...we then drive to HOB to see Live...great band and great performance...we bantered alot while waiting for the band to show up...and i learned right then and there that fucking around and bantering with a girl is a GREAT way to start the kino going...after that touching her and her touching me was no big deal...i knew right then and there that i hooked this girl fo sho....so after the show we drive back and talked somemore....i pulled up to her car and parked...we started chatting away again...and i knew she wanted me to kiss her but as you all know i have a very hard time pulling the trigger...prolly one of my biggest sticking points...i was in my head waaaay to much trying to figure out a way to kiss close....so as she said "im gunna go ahead and take off" i said "well give me a hug" we hugged then looked at eachother then boom kclose...we did that for about a min then she said "ok im gunna go now" then off she goes...im not sure she had buyers remorse...i just think she wanted to be a good girl lol...all in all a good night
Pros
kept it light and cocky/funny
kinoed as i bantered
led the way
k closed
Cons
didnt start the kino right from the get go
didnt make it as sexual as i should of
didnt pull the trigger when i was supposed to
my eye contact was better but not where i want it
insights?
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by Guest » Thu May 14, 2009 2:38 pm
Congrats on the k-close.
A couple of observations:
1) IF I do commit to taking a chick to dinner, I almost NEVER take them to chain restaurants. Now, BJs is legit for the reasons you mentioned so it's not a bad call. But, venue selection is crucial. If you were to have taken her to a non-chain restaurant that was exactly like BJs but was called JJs and was the only one of its kind in the city she would more than likely have been much, much more impressed for a variety of reasons. 1) You are, more than likely, showing her something new because people read the wrong books, listen to the wrong music, and go to the wrong places. 2) You are setting yourself apart from the crowd because you're taking her someplace unique, this makes you unique, and makes her feel special. 3) If she's never heard of it, it subcommunicates that you have the city 'wired' and a man that knows the town has uber high value (also when she say's 'I've never been here before' tell her that it's one of your favorite places but not as good as...then list a handful of other cool places that she's probably never heard of either.
2) You didn't mention this, but did you get there early or did she? I almost always show up first. And, when I do, I immediately go to the bar. My goal is to make HER look for ME. I will not wait outside for her. No sir. It makes you look like a sad little puppy waiting for you owner to get home so they can feed you. Instead, I go about my business and grab a drink. Going to the bar and not waiting for her subcommunicates that she is an accessory, of sorts, for your life. It also subcommunicates that you go after what you want and won't wait for permission. If you're sitting at the bar and she walks up, you have a perfect opportunity to kino her RIGHT there. Pull out the stool next to you, give it a pat, say "have a seat, we'll get you a drink." Now, she's right next to you. From this point, kino should be like taking candy from a baby. Finally, if you're at the bar, with other people you have an opportunity to make temporary, bar friends. If she rolls up and sees you talking to complete strangers as if you know them, the chicks are going to cream their panties and they'll also understand that if you can strike up a conversation with random people in a matter of minutes you can also do it with OTHER women too.
3) Howie is right. Figure out a way to keep your dates cheap. If you get somewhat respectable at this stuff, you're going to have a ton of dates. This was a mistake I made early on and I can promise you that I burned through a shit ton of cash. Also, it sets the wrong frame for her. If you wine and dine her once, guess what? She's going to expect it again. Remember that you always need to be telling her how it's going to be without actually saying anything.
4) You had her hooked once she agreed to come out with you. She was in comfort, but for a lot of the night it appeared as if you were still trying to build attraction or what not. Sure, you should be somewhat nervous. But, that should disappear within a few minutes of meeting up with her.
5) It's OK to not get sexual, but understand that girls don't ever want to be good. Girls, just want to have fun! And, a lot of the time that fun involves blow jobs, fucking, and anal sex. What she needs is for you to give her an excuse to have fun.
Anyway, sounds like you had a good time...which, in the end, is all that really matters.
A couple of observations:
1) IF I do commit to taking a chick to dinner, I almost NEVER take them to chain restaurants. Now, BJs is legit for the reasons you mentioned so it's not a bad call. But, venue selection is crucial. If you were to have taken her to a non-chain restaurant that was exactly like BJs but was called JJs and was the only one of its kind in the city she would more than likely have been much, much more impressed for a variety of reasons. 1) You are, more than likely, showing her something new because people read the wrong books, listen to the wrong music, and go to the wrong places. 2) You are setting yourself apart from the crowd because you're taking her someplace unique, this makes you unique, and makes her feel special. 3) If she's never heard of it, it subcommunicates that you have the city 'wired' and a man that knows the town has uber high value (also when she say's 'I've never been here before' tell her that it's one of your favorite places but not as good as...then list a handful of other cool places that she's probably never heard of either.
2) You didn't mention this, but did you get there early or did she? I almost always show up first. And, when I do, I immediately go to the bar. My goal is to make HER look for ME. I will not wait outside for her. No sir. It makes you look like a sad little puppy waiting for you owner to get home so they can feed you. Instead, I go about my business and grab a drink. Going to the bar and not waiting for her subcommunicates that she is an accessory, of sorts, for your life. It also subcommunicates that you go after what you want and won't wait for permission. If you're sitting at the bar and she walks up, you have a perfect opportunity to kino her RIGHT there. Pull out the stool next to you, give it a pat, say "have a seat, we'll get you a drink." Now, she's right next to you. From this point, kino should be like taking candy from a baby. Finally, if you're at the bar, with other people you have an opportunity to make temporary, bar friends. If she rolls up and sees you talking to complete strangers as if you know them, the chicks are going to cream their panties and they'll also understand that if you can strike up a conversation with random people in a matter of minutes you can also do it with OTHER women too.
3) Howie is right. Figure out a way to keep your dates cheap. If you get somewhat respectable at this stuff, you're going to have a ton of dates. This was a mistake I made early on and I can promise you that I burned through a shit ton of cash. Also, it sets the wrong frame for her. If you wine and dine her once, guess what? She's going to expect it again. Remember that you always need to be telling her how it's going to be without actually saying anything.
4) You had her hooked once she agreed to come out with you. She was in comfort, but for a lot of the night it appeared as if you were still trying to build attraction or what not. Sure, you should be somewhat nervous. But, that should disappear within a few minutes of meeting up with her.
5) It's OK to not get sexual, but understand that girls don't ever want to be good. Girls, just want to have fun! And, a lot of the time that fun involves blow jobs, fucking, and anal sex. What she needs is for you to give her an excuse to have fun.
Anyway, sounds like you had a good time...which, in the end, is all that really matters.
- Guest
by Guest » Thu May 14, 2009 3:49 pm
fucking great stuff BR!! To answer your question about who arrived first...we actually arrived EXACTLY at the same time..I literally pulled up and she was in front of me getting out of her car...i honked and signaled her to come over to me...i felt that was pretty alpha of me lol...and also, I did have it in the back of my mind that if i got there first id go to the bar and have her to come to me but anyways i knew i had her hooked from the get go by the way she was looking at me...but i just gotta get my balls bigger to start closing ALOT more quicker..like Howie said and i do agree...i could have been kissing her well before the end of the night...dearly noted
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by Guest » Fri May 15, 2009 12:29 pm
Excellent post BR!
I want to emphasize this: "What she needs is for you to give her an excuse to have fun."
I would say that when she says, "I'm gonna go ahead and take off," you should treat that like a question, as if she said "ok, what now?" But women hate to lead, much less when it comes to intimacy! So she is being deliberately tentative to give [i]you[/i] an opportunity to take it somewhere, which you did.
I want to emphasize this: "What she needs is for you to give her an excuse to have fun."
I would say that when she says, "I'm gonna go ahead and take off," you should treat that like a question, as if she said "ok, what now?" But women hate to lead, much less when it comes to intimacy! So she is being deliberately tentative to give [i]you[/i] an opportunity to take it somewhere, which you did.
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