7/26 Field Report from Sherlock's

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Had a great time at Sherlock's last night. Several other PUA's present and it was pretty target rich in there. Leonydas and I took turns winging each other and we opened several sets together. I want to talk about one of these sets and then hopefully get some feedback from you guys:

This took place in room where the band plays. The band was taking a break so it was wasn't super loud at the time. As we were walking in the room I saw a three set consisting of two 7.5 chicks and one who was a 5 at best. As we were walking by the set, I started arguing w/Leonydas about how I don't look like Conan O'Brian (I do kind of look like him). I turn to the set and tell them we need them to help settle a dispute for us. They all say sure. I then tell them that a few minutes ago at the bar, a group of girls told me that I looked like Conan O'Brian - that I think i don't, Leonydas thinks I do, and we need them to settle this once and for all. They all laugh and tell me that I look like Conan. I then start a discussion about whether or not this is a good thing -making the point that although its cool to look like a celebrity, Conan generally isn't considered that attractive of a guy. They respond that I don't look "exactly" like him, just similar. Then I say, "so what you're saying is that I'm basically a more attractive version of Conan?" They laugh and agree. By this point I've kino'd both of the 7.5s, and they're attention is completely on me.

It was time to cut the Conan thread, so I asked them if I could get their opinion on something. As I was doing this, Leonydas graciously went with the 5 to the bar so it was just me and the 7.5's. They walked off, and I asked them if they would read their boyfriend's email they thought he was cheating, they laugh, then respond, and I proceed to tell them about my friend who thought his gf was cheating, so he hired some guys in China to hack her email password, reads her email, and confirms the cheating. I say either way my bud is kinda screwed, b/c if he breaks up w/her out of the blue that will look really weird, and if he tells her about the email he'll look like a total creeper and she'll just turn it back on him. I then point to the one I've selected as my target and say, that's totally something you would do. She acts shocked and I give her a hug. By now these chicks were totally eating it up.

So then we move into normal conversation, talking about where we went to college and what we all do. My target was a teacher, so I told a funny story about when I used to substitute teach. By now, Leo is back but he has the 5 pretty much isolated.

I opened this set with a lot of fun energy and maintained it pretty well up to this point, but as we were bullshitting in normal conversation, I felt that energy start to fizzle down. I was hoping that the band would kick back up so I take those two chicas out to the dance floor, but it didn't. The 5 announces that she's going to the bathroom and my targets go along with them. We do some brief hugs, I say we'll catch up w/them later, and that was it.

So later that night I see the 7.5 who was not my target sitting at a table with another chick and two dudes who looked like they were trying to pick them up. The 7.5 wasn't too engaged in that convo, so I wadded up a piece of napkin and threw it at her. She saw it was me, laughed a little bit, and I started talking to her again. I number closed her by telling her that me and some friends were going dancing next week and that her and her friend should totally join us. So she gives me the number. I easily closed the number, but still, the energy and chemistry that was there when I initially approached was greatly diminished.

I closed the number, but I walked away feeling pretty dissatisfied, and thinking I could have handled the situation better. Any of you guys care to share your thoughts on this?

[Guest]

Can't really offer you advice... but did see you guys in that set and gave you a mental high 5 as I was walking by ;)

[Guest]

Did they touch you at all? If so, who touched first? You or them?

[Guest]

lets see...i touched them first - i high fived both of them at the same time. then during the times i would talk to one of them individually, i would kino by putting my hand on the back of her arm (no resistance, and they kino'd me back some). i also hugged my target after some playful negging which she reciprocated. the whole interaction was pretty money up to the point where it just started to fizzle out. i just wasn't able to sustain the initial energy level and fun.

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I've never been a big believer in kino. Or at least initiating kino.

The high five opener isn't really kino in my opinion, it's a greeting. Just like shaking someone's hand isn't kino, it's a way of saying 'hi' with your body.

In my opinion, one of the easiest most fool-proof IOI you can get is kino from her. FIRST. I never touch the girl first, I've seen way too many guys start kinoing a girl only for the guy to come off as incredibly creepy.

You could make the case that the mere fact that the girls accepted your kino was an IOI, but I just don't see the world that way. In my opinion, it's either them being polite or them giving you an IOI...my experience tells me it's the former rather than the latter.

NOW, if they touch you first. Then that's a different story altogether. They've made an 'offensive' move into your territory in an attempt to tell you that they were interested.

I think back on all my successful sets and I always waited for them to touch me. If you're observant enough, you'll notice that girls are very obvious about whether or not they're interested in you. Sometimes, they're borderline aggressive.

I suspect that you're material was probably fine. But, material is only 15% of communication. It's very possible that they're buying temperature dropped once you showed your hand by touching them, even if it was returned.

Next time, I think what you may want to try running your material with powerful body language and wait for them to indicate to you if they are or aren't attracted. Normally you'll find out who is and isn't interested by the time you're done with your first routine/opener.

The thing about the energy level and fun...it's a two way street. Your job is to carry 90% of the interaction for the first few minutes of the interaction, if they're truly interested then they'll start getting engaged and adding energy so that they take some of the load off of you. If not, you've just entered Dancing Monkey territory...

[Guest]

Muchas gracias, gents...bullrun, I have got to see you in set!