FR: Harold and Maude and Speed Seduction

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FR: Harold and Maude and Speed Seduction

Postby Alger » Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:52 am

Harold and Maude is certainly an exaggeration because I would certainly not waste my time with hags especially those over 60.

I am young (25) and I was talking to this girl who claimed she was 40. I do believe her on her age but she certainly looked younger and damn good for her age! I feel she was throwing me a lot of hoops and shit test. First, she told me about her boyfriend which either I doubt she had, and even if she did she might of wanted me since she was certainly giving me IOIs. After I told her wear I am originally from, she explained to me she was from Dallas, and that she has lived in different cities. We had small talk about the difference of each places she lived. Then she asked "where do I call home?" That kind of caught me off guard since it was a deep question, and I certainly knew she wasn't referring to wear I live now and my home state since she already knew that. So, I asked her "what do you mean by wear do I call home?" She explained to me "what is your favorite place to live if you could choose anywhere?"

So, I told her I would live in Southern California. Now, I didn't explain the dull stuff just like talking about the weather in the dull format, but talking about the weather in a speed seduction format. Telling her about how "California is warm all year long, which creates a feeling of relaxation and laid back, where you feel more carefree and uninhibited, and Texas, when it is summer, you get all hot and sweaty," and the ss was working too!

Now, that definitely gave me a tip of what to use next time when talking to a girl where I get stuck on asking the dull questions usually just to keep a stale conversation going, the standard "where are you from?" Instead, I will ask a girl rather than where she is from, "where does she call home?" That way it allows one to get know a girl deeper, get her to engage in pleasurable emotions, reveal herself to you (no, not get naked!...lol), and have her choose what she wants to talk about. Now, I don't mean it in a way for her to control the conversation. I mean it in the David Copeland technique of asking "whats your story?" in order to find out a girls feelings, what turns her on, etc. to help with calibration and fluffing. Definitely good in the A3 stage. Also, leads you in talking about the weather in a non-plain format, but an SS format. Also, when a girl talks about her boyfriend I followed Ross Jeffries and Tony Clink about getting a girl to indulge in her emotions. I told her my skills in debunking astrology (DHV, especially since it displays intelligence and cold reading). She told me she was attracted to gemini's so I asked what "gemini" traits attracted her about her boyfriend first, asked her what she liked about her boyfriend and lead her with SS in framing the same qualities she liked in her boyfriend to feel about me, and then asked all the things she didn't like about her boyfriend, and attempted to get her emotional about her boyfriend to really make her hate him. Unfortunately, even though that is what I attempted, I chickened out too soon. But I gotta thank Ross Jeffries for introducing SS to men around the world!

Also, if you ever get stuck in asking stuff because you can't figure out what to talk about, don't ask what she does for a living. Ask so "what are you and what do you do?" She told me "you mean what do I do for a living?" I said "not necessarily, I mean are what kind of person are you?" She explained to me how she was a musician who plays guitar, but she might of been something like a secretary for a living which is dull to talk about.

The thing I got to work on is limitation disengage (Tony Robbins) since those thoughts of "reasons" why I shouldn't ask for her number and hit on her (she has a "boyfriend" limited me, even though I did well at not reacting) is really nothing more than bullshit. Plus, I got to remember when I am in game when to bounce a target to a new location. Any feedback or opinions? Devil's advocacy is welcomed!
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Re: FR: Harold and Maude and Speed Seduction

Postby Mojo » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:35 pm

Alger wrote:Ha Plus, I got to remember when I am in game when to bounce a target to a new location. Any feedback or opinions? Devil's advocacy is welcomed!


Ultimately you want to have a feeling when to bounce. Once this is internalized and you let your subconcious guide you, it becomes much more easier because it becomes natural game. For example, from a same day LR I had a while ago:

Mojo wrote: In an hour I get a feeling about taking her to my place. I follow my feeling and ask her if she would like to see the lake by my condos. Take her back to my place, pour 2 glasses of win and she doesn’t even ask about the lake (which is a painting above my fireplace :)

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I just felt it was the right time to bring her back for some butt slapping. I would not be able to tell you when because I am not there and not going through the experience. It is something that must be learned, internalized, and provide you a gut feeling without over analysing.
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Re: FR: Harold and Maude and Speed Seduction

Postby Alger » Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:55 am

Mojo wrote:
Alger wrote:I just felt it was the right time to bring her back for some butt slapping. I would not be able to tell you when because I am not there and not going through the experience. It is something that must be learned, internalized, and provide you a gut feeling without over analysing.


Hey Mojo

Creating a gut feeling is the hardest because I have never been used to bouncing, and it certainly is jumping out of ones comfort zone, or creating a new habit. I think the whole idea of jumping out of ones comfort zone and trying to create new habits in one self is really the hardest thing in pick up. Refusing to be in the comfort zone is really the first step.
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Re: FR: Harold and Maude and Speed Seduction

Postby Scoundrel » Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:52 pm

Bouncing a girl is often very easy. I remember once I was sitting in a coffee house when a girl behind me mentioned being hungry. I opened her by saying "I'm hungry too. Let's go to old south and eat." And she came with me! I didn't F close this chick. But, we had a nice meal and got to know each other.

My point is you can often bounce much sooner than you think.
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Re: FR: Harold and Maude and Speed Seduction

Postby RockStar » Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:18 am

Alger wrote:
Hey Mojo

Creating a gut feeling is the hardest because I have never been used to bouncing, and it certainly is jumping out of ones comfort zone, or creating a new habit. I think the whole idea of jumping out of ones comfort zone and trying to create new habits in one self is really the hardest thing in pick up. Refusing to be in the comfort zone is really the first step.


then you should try to bounce every set until it becomes calibrated. I have often told you this is a phsyical art and just like a sport we can discuss the perfect soccer kick all day, but in reality you just have to go and kick the ball a bunch until it feels natural.

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