FR - damn...

[Love]

So there's this other girl I've been "seeing." Well, by "seeing" I mean she has a boyfriend long distance, and we're friends, but we go out one-on-one all the time.

Well, lately every time we've been going out it follows this pattern. At the beginning of the evening she's a little bit cold toward me and turned off. Things heat up progressively throughout the night, kino escalates, attraction builds. we already have a ton of rapport bc we've known each other a long time. we end up at my place or hers, and we end up on the bed making out.

THIS GIRL HAS A NUTTY AMOUNT OF LMR! What should I do?? I can't seem to get this to escalate to a full close no matter what I friggin do!!! Oh yeah, she also likes to "fall asleep" on my bed for some reason whenever I try a takeaway even if I turn the lights on and talk loudly on the phone. As you can tell, it's been a long and frustrating Friday night as this happened yet again and now she has gone home. Next time, it'll probably be the same thing.

Help?

[Mojo]

Could you let me know what kind of LMR does she give? What does she say? Does she push you away?

[Love]

Could you let me know what kind of LMR does she give? What does she say? Does she push you away?

Sure thing, it's never an aggressive or angry "NO" it's more of a playful tone or a light punch "noooo." It's like a 'come-on' no if anything. So I've tried two things. I've tried to plow through it, then she gets more aggressive "NO" and pushes me away. I've tried to back up, rinse and repeat, which works to an extent and I can usually escalate some, but whenever we get to a certain point (like my hands on her breasts or something like that) she is like "OK I should go home" and gets up and pulls away and starts packing her purse. she's like "it's not that I don't WANT to, it's because I like you blah blah" Now I'm left on the bed, and I either can agree with her, in which case she just leaves, or I can try to get her back in bed, in which case I'm chasing her. I'm just completely baffled. The other thing is that she loves to just go and fall asleep on my bed. I can kiss on her and stuff but she acts like she's sleeping even though I can tell she's awake, like she'll have a smile on her face and stuff but won't move, but I'm hesitant to push it further there because I don't want to assault the girl, just to understand and beat her LMR.

[playercool]

Not sure of your position while making out so I will just assume.

I am assuming you guys are kinda laying next to each other making out. She feels comfort while doing this and prob doesn't think it is cheating.

What I would do is either pull her on top of you so she is straddling(do this first that way she feels in control). Then when things have amped up to the next level I would go missionary on her. This way you can simulate sex but be fully clothed. This should make her go crazy and hopefully in a way that will turn her on enough to go further.

Goodluck

[Love]

the first time it happened i was on top of her but she wouldn't let me between her legs even with clothes on, so her legs were together and off to one side. this was at her place. lately it's been at my place we've ended up and like you say, next to each other on the bed. another thing she'll do when we're in this position is to turn around so I can't kiss her anymore.

[lawdawg505]

I think it is pretty clear that there is a voice in her head that reminds her of her bf. Now I don't know what your personal belief is with girls who have bfs nor do I know the all of the details, but I wouldn't like it if my girl was fooling around with another guy, so I personally don't believe in being the other guy. We all know that there are plenty of fish in the sea and in game we learn to not chase a bad set.

Ask yourself, is the juice worth the squeeze and if it is then try and break down the LMR but if not just find yourself another girl...

Don't know if this helped or I just sounded like a major pussy, but thats what I gather given the situation.

[Love]

Why would you say you might sound like a pussy? I respect your opinion bro and appreciate the advice. It's never pussy to express your point of view.

Basically I have no moral problem with this at all. The first time those two ever had sex (which was her first time) he actually drugged her so she was passed out when he had sex with her. In my mind that makes him a rapist, and I have no problem stealing that bastard's girl IMO. She wants to break up with him but for some reason she still feels attached to him too, and even, I've been making out with her and she keeps her phone under the pillow in case he calls and he has called, and she ignores it. it's really weird.

[Mojo]

Sure thing, it's never an aggressive or angry "NO" it's more of a playful tone or a light punch "noooo." It's like a 'come-on' no if anything.

Pace her reality. When she playfully says "No", you also agree, saying, "Yeah, this is so wrong" and keep on kissing her...
"we should stop", softly kiss her on the neck. Pace her reality.

Do not go for the X-rated areas too fast. Kiss her all over her body except those areas. Try kissing and lightly biting the areas that don't get much air such as opposite side of her elbow or the other side her knee is on. Give her goosebumbs. Take your time. Make her horny.

If she gets up and says "OK I should go home", kiss her. Get up and softly, passionately, whatever, kiss her. Try to get her back to bed? nah. Push her up against the wall. Kiss her neck. Ravish her. Sometimes its a good idea not to analyze the whole thing at the time, go caveman, let instinct guide you. Thinking how nice it would be to ravish, to fuck the shit out of her while looking in her eyes will communicate all the right things without saying a word.

Hope this helps,

~ Mojo