Help with transition from attraction phase

[TAG]

So I was able to hook this HB 7 from a distance away by commenting on her dog. She and her dog walked over to me...so I am like cool. The conversation about her dog and how she picked her dog was interesting and she definitely was enthusiastic about telling me the story and for once I was aware of more than just the verbal conversation but also the energy in her tone... Man though, I continue to suck on getting to the next step..like qualifying. I find that I continue to not have any transition...and I sense that some of the girls that I talk to want to continue but I am trying to follow the MM model by not showing to much interest and not hanging around to long. Arrgh!

Any insight you could provide would be appreciated.

[Neuromancer]

... I am trying to follow the MM model by not showing to much interest and not hanging around to long. Arrgh!

Mystery says a min 20 minutes before #closing and he goes 45. Once you have her qualifying like you say she was by telling you a story, just move her into isolation and get into a conversation that doesn't involve waste removal and you should be golden. MM says be entertaining and she will stick, be boring and she will go looking for a more entertaining conversation. Once you have attraction, have qualified and isolated, go for comfort and escalate kino.

[TAG]

Just for clarification: So the conversation that I was getting from her is the qualifying stage even though it was about her dog and how she came across him? Newbie at this ofcourse...We were already isolated by nature because she was walking her dog alone.

As I am thinking about your answer and what I could have done (next time) is create the perception that I was going to leave and then come back to her. Saw her modeling all my non-verbals so I know that we were congruent and kept the energy high naturally just felt like blank in my head and moved on...she turned around and said "see you later". Felt like damn...she was interested but I felt like I had nothing to move on to with her. The message I am hearing through my head is review and practice. In the backround I am listening to Hypnotica interview and he just reiterated that it is about honing your skills.

Guess the good thing is I did make a move but want to improve. Thanks for the guidance for the number of minutes.

[Vector]

One thing I'll mention is day game has a lot of differences from night game. In day game you're not competing to be more entertaining than other stuff going on. Girls have real time constraints. So the pace is different, and should be somewhat accelerated.

The way I think of it, the man usually goes through the psychological steps:
1. see girl
2. want to fuck

But the steps you want to go through or appear to go through are:
1. see girl
2. intrigued, curious
3. discover something unique and wonderful about her
4. build personal connection
5. sex

You need at least 1 through 3 on the first meeting. You can go for some 4 but 4 takes time so you're going to have to save most of it for the date.

I'd recommend qualifying (ask are you cool to hang out with, what's something about you that nobody ever guesses) in order to discover something special enough (3) that when you ask for the date, it is justified based on what she has told you about herself. "Oh my gosh, you're adventurous, AND sensitive, AND you're studying business? That's an amazing combination, and I now want to go out with you."

As opposed to, "Oh, you have an awesome dog, and you're good at telling stories, will you go out with me?" which will seem only weakly justified by the non-physical.

Of course all this is implied, not explicit. Ask her for good qualities and reward her by appreciating it when she tells you. When you ask her out she will know why and it will feel perfectly natural.

As for the transition, make an observation or comment on something unrelated like you just thought of it. Perhaps a cold read. "Yeah I used to have this leash for my dog, and it would always... you know, I notice you have an positive energy about you, I bet there are things in your life that you're really passionate about."

[TAG]

Vector,

Got it. Thanks for breaking it down and providing examples. Never thought of day game difference like that. Now I know what a cold read is...that is smooth!