A Model for SHB?s that May Be Useful
Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 12:59 pm[b]A Model for SHB?s that May Be Useful [/b]
[i]originally posted by Jack_Bauer at:
[url]http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion/fs?action=9&boardid=2&read=66130&fid=23[/url][/i]
Hey guys, I feel uniquely qualified to comment on this topic. I?m 27 years old, and at this point in my life I?ve seriously dated one major TV star/model, and a major European film star. Right now, I'm seeing a 23-year-old Victoria?s Secret model. All of them are what would be considered by any rational human being SHB 10?s.
Okay, I'm done qualifying :)
In my opinion, the key to gaming these women is the proper use of Validation. Almost every true SHB is extremely insecure about everything EXCEPT her looks. Why? Because her looks are the only thing anyone pays any attention to. You?re probably thinking, ?Yeah. Sounds REALLY tough...? but, think for a moment.
Imagine what it must be like to be a billionaire. All day long, the only thing people notice about you is the size of your wallet. Everyone, everywhere you go, kisses your ass solely because of the fact that you have something they want, namely, cash. They compliment you, validate you, open doors for you...all because of your net worth. Any normal person in that situation would become really insecure, and rightly so...do your friends really care about you? Your kids? Your family? Your co-workers? Your wife? Or are they all just trying to get their hands on what you?ve got?
This is what it?s like to be a true SHB. None of them get praised for being intelligent, or talented, or good people...or told they?re funny, or interesting to be around. Girls don?t do it because they?re usually so fucking intimidated by, and competitive with, a true SHB. Guys don?t do it because they?re either too scared to approach in the first place, or if they do, they?re probably wasted already and show up holding their dicks, just looking for sex.
99% of the SHB?s I?ve met are going through life DYING to have a real connection with a guy who isn?t JUST trying to fuck them. Notice I did NOT say, ?who isn?t trying to fuck them?. You have to be turned on by them at least a little, or they?ll freak...but to really make one of these girls fall in love with you, it MUST be about more than just their hotness.
Inner game is critical. Beauty has to simply not be a big deal for you. You have to believe that you live in a world where you can?t throw a rock without hitting an SHB. Now, I live in LA, so this is actually almost the truth. But this has to be your world.
I have a friend who is a Fashion Photographer. This IS his world. All day, every day, he is SURROUNDED by smoking hot models. And after a while, you just stop giving a shit. He doesn?t see them as these amazingly hot women. It?s like the scene in Mean Girls where the 3 hotties are staring at themselves in the mirror; one says she has ?man-shoulders?, the other says her hair is flat or something like that. They see flaws in their beauty that a normal human being would NEVER fucking notice. That?s how he looks at women, honestly. He also gets laid like crazy. Why?
Because he sub-communicates to these girls through every behavior he has that he could give a shit about their beauty! So, subconsciously, then, he IMMEDIATELY BECOMES that 1 in 1000 human being who could potentially validate her other qualities. Back to the idea of the billionaire; if a homeless guy tells you he thinks your wonderful, or even someone who works for you, it means NOTHING, even if they?re sincere. Why? Because they MIGHT just be after your money...you have no way of knowing. You have to take everything with a grain of salt. But, if you?re kicking it with Donald Trump or Bill Gates, and they give you an honest compliment, you can take it to the bank. Why? BECAUSE THEY DON?T WANT ANYTHING FROM YOU.
So, in order to have a chance in Hell, you have to be completely unfazed by their beauty, to the point of being unimpressed. You also have to not give a shit that she?s an actress/model who probably makes more money than you do. This alone will give you tremendous value in their eyes, automatically. Because if you DO really fall in love with them (or appear to) it?s FOR REAL, because of who she is, and not JUST because she?s hot.
I usually do this with a False Disqualifier, except it isn?t really false. My New Year?s Resolution for 2007 was to completely stop dating models and actresses...obviously since I?m now in a relationship with a model, that didn?t work out...but saying that works like GOLD, if you can be congruent with it. When she tells you she models, just say, ?Oh.? and look down with a frown. She?ll say, ?What?? You say, ?No, I just wish you weren?t a model! I promised myself to stop dating models and find some normal people.? If you?re good-looking, she may actually just buy this, if not, she?ll probably have some doubts. She might ask who you?ve dated, what agency they were with, what kind of modelling they did, etc. (see below).
Either way, this is really, really field-tested. Say, ?Every model I?ve ever gone out with has just been a pretty face, and that gets old after like three weeks, and then what?s left? I promised myself I?d try to meet someone that?s (xxx...an amazing passionate human being, a really sensual person, whatever qualifying shit you?re looking for), whether they?re gorgeous or not.? Shrug when you say this, like you really mean it. Hell, THIS SHOULD BE YOUR FRAME anyway when you?re mixing in these circles, because it?s the truth. Dating/Fucking someone smoking hot is a great feeling until you realize they have NOTHING LEFT to offer. Most models are SHITTY lovers, because they think that all they have to do is lay there. Most models know DICK about anything at all.
Qualify her on all this. ?Wait, are you one of those models who never reads?? ?Are you a good lover?? etc. She should definitely be qualifying to you by now. And here, however things proceed, you have the opportunity to convince her that you?re starting to like her IN SPITE OF the fact that she?s gorgeous, and not because of it. Got it? Write that down.
So, then when she starts qualifying to you, you start validating. Compliment her on the things she says. Say it like it?s nothing...give her the chance to gradually win you over. Like you shouldn?t be starting to like her because you PROMISED yourself you?d meet a ?normal? girl, but she?s just so fucking xxx (whatever).
Then escalate like always. The faster you can sleep with her and get her on your team, the better.
The idea is to find the ways in which she?s unique; at first, she?s sensual, or passionate, or adventurous. If it turns into an LTR, you eventually want to make it seem like there are qualities that ONLY she has, that ONLY you can appreciate (once she earns it, of course...all of mASF relationship stuff still applies).
(A quick aside: If you?re going to say this, you have to know SOMETHING about modelling and fashion. Nothing serious, just shit you?d know about if you really did date girls like this. Know the difference between runway, commercial, and editorial, and which girls are right for what. Know a LITTLE something about designers. Talk about how you went with your ex to ?castings?; how she made you watch America?s Next Top Model (they ALL fucking watch it); how so-and-so had an eating disorder, etc. Do NOT talk about how anyone is fat, ever.)
At some point, she will show you her modelling portfolio. CRITIQUE THE PICTURES. ?You?re totally hot in this one? ?What the Hell did they do to your hair?? ?You sort of look like an alien here.? Be funny. Make her laugh. No guy has EVER done this, I promise. She will fucking FREAK.
All the normal mASF stuff applies just as much to SHB?s as to anyone else. Don?t be an asshole who gets validation from the fact that you?re GF is a model. Have your own life with your own priorities. Don?t brag to your friends about the girl you?re dating...it means NOTHING to you to be dating a model (because really, no one gives a shit). Don?t spend too much time with her. Sub-communicate that your career and your friends are a higher priority. GET COMPLIANCE; let her love you and give her ways to do it. If she comes to you asking for career advice, like whether she should leave her agency or change her hair, be a fucking leader and tell her what to do. Do NOT get oneitis; it?s MUCH easier than you think to fall into it, especially if she?s the hottest girl you?ve dated. Be really unpredictable. Control the 101. Keep your sex life REALLY varied, and get tons of compliance there, too.
READ EVERY LETTER FRANCO HAS EVER TYPED. HE IS LESS THAN A GOD, BUT MORE THAN A MAN.
Hope this is helpful. This really works for me. Your inner game is everything; you must have a CRYSTAL-CLEAR idea of what you expect from women. If being hot is part of it, it needs to simply be the TIP of the iceberg...the fact that she?s hot is why you?re talking to her in the first place...now what else has she got? Just like a fashion photographer; she?s here because she?s gorgeous, but now can she work? Can she pose? Can she xxx? You get the idea. Her looks don?t mean anything.
Every woman is a 6.
Jack
[i]originally posted by Jack_Bauer at:
[url]http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion/fs?action=9&boardid=2&read=66130&fid=23[/url][/i]
Hey guys, I feel uniquely qualified to comment on this topic. I?m 27 years old, and at this point in my life I?ve seriously dated one major TV star/model, and a major European film star. Right now, I'm seeing a 23-year-old Victoria?s Secret model. All of them are what would be considered by any rational human being SHB 10?s.
Okay, I'm done qualifying :)
In my opinion, the key to gaming these women is the proper use of Validation. Almost every true SHB is extremely insecure about everything EXCEPT her looks. Why? Because her looks are the only thing anyone pays any attention to. You?re probably thinking, ?Yeah. Sounds REALLY tough...? but, think for a moment.
Imagine what it must be like to be a billionaire. All day long, the only thing people notice about you is the size of your wallet. Everyone, everywhere you go, kisses your ass solely because of the fact that you have something they want, namely, cash. They compliment you, validate you, open doors for you...all because of your net worth. Any normal person in that situation would become really insecure, and rightly so...do your friends really care about you? Your kids? Your family? Your co-workers? Your wife? Or are they all just trying to get their hands on what you?ve got?
This is what it?s like to be a true SHB. None of them get praised for being intelligent, or talented, or good people...or told they?re funny, or interesting to be around. Girls don?t do it because they?re usually so fucking intimidated by, and competitive with, a true SHB. Guys don?t do it because they?re either too scared to approach in the first place, or if they do, they?re probably wasted already and show up holding their dicks, just looking for sex.
99% of the SHB?s I?ve met are going through life DYING to have a real connection with a guy who isn?t JUST trying to fuck them. Notice I did NOT say, ?who isn?t trying to fuck them?. You have to be turned on by them at least a little, or they?ll freak...but to really make one of these girls fall in love with you, it MUST be about more than just their hotness.
Inner game is critical. Beauty has to simply not be a big deal for you. You have to believe that you live in a world where you can?t throw a rock without hitting an SHB. Now, I live in LA, so this is actually almost the truth. But this has to be your world.
I have a friend who is a Fashion Photographer. This IS his world. All day, every day, he is SURROUNDED by smoking hot models. And after a while, you just stop giving a shit. He doesn?t see them as these amazingly hot women. It?s like the scene in Mean Girls where the 3 hotties are staring at themselves in the mirror; one says she has ?man-shoulders?, the other says her hair is flat or something like that. They see flaws in their beauty that a normal human being would NEVER fucking notice. That?s how he looks at women, honestly. He also gets laid like crazy. Why?
Because he sub-communicates to these girls through every behavior he has that he could give a shit about their beauty! So, subconsciously, then, he IMMEDIATELY BECOMES that 1 in 1000 human being who could potentially validate her other qualities. Back to the idea of the billionaire; if a homeless guy tells you he thinks your wonderful, or even someone who works for you, it means NOTHING, even if they?re sincere. Why? Because they MIGHT just be after your money...you have no way of knowing. You have to take everything with a grain of salt. But, if you?re kicking it with Donald Trump or Bill Gates, and they give you an honest compliment, you can take it to the bank. Why? BECAUSE THEY DON?T WANT ANYTHING FROM YOU.
So, in order to have a chance in Hell, you have to be completely unfazed by their beauty, to the point of being unimpressed. You also have to not give a shit that she?s an actress/model who probably makes more money than you do. This alone will give you tremendous value in their eyes, automatically. Because if you DO really fall in love with them (or appear to) it?s FOR REAL, because of who she is, and not JUST because she?s hot.
I usually do this with a False Disqualifier, except it isn?t really false. My New Year?s Resolution for 2007 was to completely stop dating models and actresses...obviously since I?m now in a relationship with a model, that didn?t work out...but saying that works like GOLD, if you can be congruent with it. When she tells you she models, just say, ?Oh.? and look down with a frown. She?ll say, ?What?? You say, ?No, I just wish you weren?t a model! I promised myself to stop dating models and find some normal people.? If you?re good-looking, she may actually just buy this, if not, she?ll probably have some doubts. She might ask who you?ve dated, what agency they were with, what kind of modelling they did, etc. (see below).
Either way, this is really, really field-tested. Say, ?Every model I?ve ever gone out with has just been a pretty face, and that gets old after like three weeks, and then what?s left? I promised myself I?d try to meet someone that?s (xxx...an amazing passionate human being, a really sensual person, whatever qualifying shit you?re looking for), whether they?re gorgeous or not.? Shrug when you say this, like you really mean it. Hell, THIS SHOULD BE YOUR FRAME anyway when you?re mixing in these circles, because it?s the truth. Dating/Fucking someone smoking hot is a great feeling until you realize they have NOTHING LEFT to offer. Most models are SHITTY lovers, because they think that all they have to do is lay there. Most models know DICK about anything at all.
Qualify her on all this. ?Wait, are you one of those models who never reads?? ?Are you a good lover?? etc. She should definitely be qualifying to you by now. And here, however things proceed, you have the opportunity to convince her that you?re starting to like her IN SPITE OF the fact that she?s gorgeous, and not because of it. Got it? Write that down.
So, then when she starts qualifying to you, you start validating. Compliment her on the things she says. Say it like it?s nothing...give her the chance to gradually win you over. Like you shouldn?t be starting to like her because you PROMISED yourself you?d meet a ?normal? girl, but she?s just so fucking xxx (whatever).
Then escalate like always. The faster you can sleep with her and get her on your team, the better.
The idea is to find the ways in which she?s unique; at first, she?s sensual, or passionate, or adventurous. If it turns into an LTR, you eventually want to make it seem like there are qualities that ONLY she has, that ONLY you can appreciate (once she earns it, of course...all of mASF relationship stuff still applies).
(A quick aside: If you?re going to say this, you have to know SOMETHING about modelling and fashion. Nothing serious, just shit you?d know about if you really did date girls like this. Know the difference between runway, commercial, and editorial, and which girls are right for what. Know a LITTLE something about designers. Talk about how you went with your ex to ?castings?; how she made you watch America?s Next Top Model (they ALL fucking watch it); how so-and-so had an eating disorder, etc. Do NOT talk about how anyone is fat, ever.)
At some point, she will show you her modelling portfolio. CRITIQUE THE PICTURES. ?You?re totally hot in this one? ?What the Hell did they do to your hair?? ?You sort of look like an alien here.? Be funny. Make her laugh. No guy has EVER done this, I promise. She will fucking FREAK.
All the normal mASF stuff applies just as much to SHB?s as to anyone else. Don?t be an asshole who gets validation from the fact that you?re GF is a model. Have your own life with your own priorities. Don?t brag to your friends about the girl you?re dating...it means NOTHING to you to be dating a model (because really, no one gives a shit). Don?t spend too much time with her. Sub-communicate that your career and your friends are a higher priority. GET COMPLIANCE; let her love you and give her ways to do it. If she comes to you asking for career advice, like whether she should leave her agency or change her hair, be a fucking leader and tell her what to do. Do NOT get oneitis; it?s MUCH easier than you think to fall into it, especially if she?s the hottest girl you?ve dated. Be really unpredictable. Control the 101. Keep your sex life REALLY varied, and get tons of compliance there, too.
READ EVERY LETTER FRANCO HAS EVER TYPED. HE IS LESS THAN A GOD, BUT MORE THAN A MAN.
Hope this is helpful. This really works for me. Your inner game is everything; you must have a CRYSTAL-CLEAR idea of what you expect from women. If being hot is part of it, it needs to simply be the TIP of the iceberg...the fact that she?s hot is why you?re talking to her in the first place...now what else has she got? Just like a fashion photographer; she?s here because she?s gorgeous, but now can she work? Can she pose? Can she xxx? You get the idea. Her looks don?t mean anything.
Every woman is a 6.
Jack