Studying naturals

[Welsh_Dragon]

I have recently had opportunity to spend time with friends who clearly have natural ability with women. I initially struggled with the concept naturals as portrayed by the seduction community and my first mental picture was of some guy strutting around and women instantly swooning at his mere presence. As with most prevailing media-driven myths the reality has proven markedly different.

None of the guys I am talking about have ever heard of PUA concepts and I have, in most cases, been friends with them for a lot longer than my exposure to the community. I have noticed that they consistently have, amongst others, the two following inherent personality traits.

- Outcome independence in any given social situation. It is almost impossible to beta them because their frame is so strong. Even if you catch them out and successfully make fun of something they did or said (a win in the constant battle of wits if you will) it never bruises their inner confidence. The usual reaction to any perceived negativity, which I have taken to copying, is to completely ignore it as if nothing ever happened. A smile and a shrug with key body language and the whole thing is forgotten. Most importantly this knowledge makes them fearless in the art of social dynamics because there is no way to feel bad if you don’t allow it. I have made a point to copy this.

- Complete comfort around women and inherent understanding of the natural male/female roles. Women will say they want this and that in a man and all sorts of tripe when it comes to equality, contemporary dating, etc… These guys know this is all bullshit. Women’s social “glass houses” are completely broken down because these guys know the score. Everything happens on the man’s "terms" and this is exactly the role she wants to play (or allows him to play).

When I hang out with these guys it is never about picking up chicks. The vibe for an evening is having fun with friends and seeing where the night takes us. The male/female dynamic is always correct right from the outset and this is 80% of the battle in night game. I have noticed that is exactly the same way girls operate, subtly engineering situations to their advantage whilst maintaining the air of mystique.

When I go out alone I am armed with this knowledge and so assess the social landscape before choosing my new friends for the night. Peer group is so important in the field that I have dedicated a lot of time to this building block skill. In my opinion it is one of the most important areas to have down.

[TheDoGhoUse]

I think you are right on with you assessment. I taught myself about "game" in high school. I was very involved with sports and alot of extra curricular activities so I never had the time to desire a girlfriend. I learned how to keep girls interested and the ability to keep FB's around because every girl wants a boyfriend in high school this was difficult to manage at that age. Cocky and confidence are the best traits at that age for any of you youngsters. Now college campuses are PRIME locations to put any of the PU methods into action and hone all your skills for the real world that awaits after college. All you college kids out there LISTEN UP, I wish that I had been turned on to the PU society and its methods in college - take advantage of this if you can. I was a natural and didnt really have any problems picking up women - probably my biggest weakspot was openers. You can put me into a conversation and I can control it without offending anybody in the group and keeping it interesting. The naturals secret weapon is being comfortable in groups of people that he does not know and having the confidence and control to say things that most guys wont or most do not think of to begin with. Comments directed towards naturals egos or self esteem do not effect them at all because they have to confidence to know otherwise and roll with the punches. I can make fun of myself without it effecting my comfort level in public whatsoever. These are all self traits that anybody can focus on learning for themselves and they will help you out in other real world situations. I love the information that I have learned from the society and wish that I had been turned onto it much sooner - i think it just makes going out more for fun myself in general and that is the key.

[warriorpoet]

ive seen a lot of decent natural guys in action and really, the main difference i can pick out is a lack of depth in what they do - community guys are far more aware of whats going on and have layers of understanding, while the natural guys i know have far less versatile (yet sometimes deadly effective) game. one guy i know cant open, but fucked 97 women last year. hes an awesome looking guy, so really just trawls for foolsmate. bastard.

[TheDoGhoUse]

right on. My first material was, "The Game". As I was reading it I found myself laughing at certain moments because I would think of times I was out and using techniques inadvertantly that the book was describing as Cocky Funny, push-pull, freezing, neg's, ect. Never did I think of the depth that these techniques go and how to analyze women through the whole series of the inital interaction. It was something that I just thought some guys had and some guys didn't.