What is the definition of COCKBLOCKING?

[ACEofHEARTSS]

I was out with a buddy of mine I’ve known since 8th grade last night and I showed him a bar that he would never go to as he wanted to drink and chat since we’ve lost touch. I saw Dallas Mojo and a new guy out sarging so I knew to advise them not to talk about Fight Club to which they honored. I noticed as me and my buddy were talking, catching up, etc and there was a 4 set. 2 UG’s, HB6 and HB7 that was sitting next to us.

Now, my intent was not to sarge only to show my buddy a good time. My buddy’s model of the world is to toss around a lot of cash and everything will be handed to you. I don’t agree with it, just acknowledge it as our friendship has lasted all these years and is based on other factors.

I’ve noted not to talk about Fight Club to my AFC friends simply because it turns into a hours long debate on view of women to which both parties will never win simply because of mindset.

As we were talking, one of the UG’s overheard our convo (she basically opened him). I quickly started talking with the rest of the group just to practice transitioning topics. I did that pretty smoothly and then just ignored the set and went back to talking w/my buddy. I didn’t really care to sarge them as I was just interested in talking w/my buddy. My buddy would talk to them then I would steer the convo then I would resume convo w/my buddy on purpose to not show interest simply cuz my intent was to talk w/my buddy.

Of course this goes on for about 30 minutes and I noticed the more I kept our attention away, the more open and friendlier they became. Dallas Mojo comes in and says to me “hey you guys were talking for awhile” and proceeds to do the cigarette magic trick to the set. No problem. He then goes into material and I hear the women yelp or something then I notice Mojo turns his back and says to me “I negged too hard” to which I said, “yeah, you’ve been coming off to rude/obnoxious lately”. The girls then grabbed me and my buddy to block Mojo as they told me that that guy was really rude. (this is not a flame, this is honest feedback FROM THE GIRLS)


So I transitioned to different topics and then went back to talking w/ my buddy, ignoring the chicks again. Now my buddy was engaged in convo and I was just fluff talking, not gameing/demoing/sarging, just relaxing and enjoy convo w/my buddy.

My buddy buys everyone 3 shots and a few beers during the night. (again, my buddy’s view of the world) and the chick that opened him bought him a drink too. The other girls had b/fs but the UG was trying to pick up my buddy so they in turn were assisting her by talking with me. No problem.

2 of the girls go to the bathroom and Mojo comes back to talk to the UG that opened my buddy. I don’t think Mojo knew that she opened him. I couldn’t hear what he said but she starts asking her friend if his eyes were dilated. I asked her why she said that and she said “because he looks high on coke”. I busted up laughing because I saw this before in other sets w/Mojo!

***NOTE: Dallas Mojo does not do drugs. Nor do I.


Now, Mojo comes to me and I sense he was a bit upset because I was laughing. I didn’t mean it to be offensive. He doesn’t want my feed back. No problem. It’s honored. Me and my buddy continue talking w/the chicks and they invite us to go see the band on the other side of the bar. No problem. We’re all just listening to the band until the bar closes. The UG goes for the # close on my buddy. This is funny. Of course, all the chicks had b/fs but it looks like they were winging VERY well for their woman by occupying the obstacle (me). It’s funny how everything has a double standard.

On the way home, my buddy tells me how much of a good time he had as he normally doesn’t talk w/white girls. (he loves Latinas). He didn’t know that I was flexing my rapport muscles throughout the convo as I controlled the fluff subjects but then again…. I was not sarging.

Here’s something that I have to address. Dallas Mojo knew that me and my buddy were talking to the set. He went in to do the Cigarette Magic trick. No problem. He starts running game/material…..BIG problem. This is called COCKBLOCKING and has been a recurring theme that’s been happening w/other wings when they sarge w/Dallas Mojo. I’ve tried talking w/Mojo but I guess he doesn’t believe me. This is where our Fellow Dallas Wingman can chime in to help Dallas Mojo better himself.


I make this post not as a FLAME, not as a FR, not as ADVICE but just MY observation on what’s going on. Fellow Wingmen of Dallas, am I talking shit??? PLEASE speak up now.

[Mojo]

Alfonso, you said you were chilling and not sarging. I won’t cock block anyone intentionally. However, since you were focusing on your AFC friend and, as you said, not on the ladies, how can I cock block you if you were not trying. As for the ladies, I had no intention of getting their numbers. There were two UGs and a HB5.0 and HB6.0 (Yes, my definition of HB is different), I had no interest. It is important for me to practice my material on undesirables before actually doing it in front of real targets, so I go in for the magic trick. And remember, you said you were not sarging them, and thus I figured how can I cock block if you are not sarging? Cigarette disappears; I pull out of my ear, and light it for a smoky. The UG was mad I lit it. I did a wonderful entertaining magic trick, thinking she had given me that cig. But apparently she wanted it back. I decide not to waste my time, turn my back, and they get upset. Notice that was my only purpose was to practice. No other material was used.

Later, I realized that the UGs’ feelings might be hurt. So I went back, made amends, had her smiling. I have high energy on purpose. Energy is a strategy. Energy attracts. And I love my energy.

Alfonso, you told me you were not gaming these girls. If you did, I would social proof you and leave. However, you said you were not, and your friend is an AFC. I will not intentionally cock block a fellow PUA.


Alfonso, let me state Asian Playboys rule #8:

8. DON’T PLAY FUCKING MIND GAMES WITH ONE ANOTHER
That’s what chicks do. That’s not what bros do. Now maybe you wing with some Pick Up Artists but aren’t actually FRIENDS with them. That can happen and they want to subtly indicate they are more “alpha” than you. But that’s not what friends are about. Don’t fuck each other over.


I understand you were the assistant organizer for Dimitry. As you told me, he gives you cool stuff. And from the questions you ask me, I can tell these are questions Dimitry would love to know. There are numerous of other interesting facts, too.

Integrity is important to me. This high school mentality I have had to put up with lately after creating a web site that has been a threat others illusions of grandeur is something I have not experience since, well, high school. I know you can rise above this. Screw this rivalry others had made. We are here to learn this awesome skill and help each out with sincerity.

[ACEofHEARTSS]

****I***** was not sarging. My AFC friend was. He was opened by the UG therefore he is in set. YOU saw me and him talking for a GOOD 20-30 minutes so you want to interrupt and run game? He doesn’t study Pick-up but he does have his own system (throwing around money). What’s the definition of Cockblocking?

1. Intentionally AMOGing a guy
2. running game on the target of a guy in set

The Cigarette Trick is cute. Getting a HORRIBLE response from a group of women and wanting to social proof guys AFTER the blow-out is a BAD thing. What do you guys think???

The PROVINCE of the post was to get you aware of how this is destructive to sarging w/fellow wings, including myself out in the field.

Now, all you guys who have sarged w/Greg do you see this pattern? Yes or No.

I understand you were the assistant organizer for Dimitry. As you told me, he gives you cool stuff. And from the questions you ask me, I can tell these are questions Dimitry would love to know.

Integrity is important to me. This high school mentality I have had to put up with lately after creating a web site that has been a threat others illusions of grandeur is something I have not experience since, well, high school. I know you can be above this.


As far as referring to JT’s rules ok here we go with what you violated:

Rule#2: You do not game up your Buddy’s Target

Rule#6 Your are not a Fucking Sarge Robot

Rule#9 Do not be a Fucking Cock Block- you are not social proofing ANYONE when you’re getting bad responses from women. It’s called Negative Social Proof because women will associate the feelings with the guys.

[Mojo]

Interesting. I see what you are doing Alfonso. You are trying to set the frame to meet your version of reality.


Let me use Asian Playboys rule #9.

9. DO NOT BE A FUCKING COCK BLOCKER
If your buddy is interested in a girl. (You said you were not) your job is to SOCIAL PROOF HIM. (Which I would have done if you did not specifically say that you were not sarging them) You do not fucking cock-block him. You do not TOOL him. You do not AMOG him. (I did neither) You show her that you consider him to be the coolest, most alpha guy in the room. It’s a PRIVILEGE that you’re in his circle of friends. Show some respect, appreciation and fucking FRIENDSHIP.

So, if you say YOU ARE NOT SARGING them, then why should I not practice one magic trick? Hey all, if you tell another PUA that you are not sarging a set, how can you be blown out? What do you guys think?
Alfonso, did you lie to me when you said you were just chilling and not sarging?

Sarging is a learning process. And for those who have sarge with me, have I cock blocked anyone recently? YES or NO?

Rule#2: You do not game up your Buddy’s Target
Alfonso, as I said, YOU TOLD ME YOU WERE CHILLING AND NOT SARGING. How can I take your target when you admitted you had none.

Rule#6 Your are not a Fucking Sarge Robot
Inner game is important. Mine is solid.

So, as I showed clearly in this post, I did not cock block. Cheers.

[Tribulus1000]

I just wanted to throw my perspective in on the subject of trying to do pickup and also run your life too.
You know, sometimes you get too involved in doing sets, going to the next bar, club or venue.
I get so used to going out that I become glued to the idea that I have to talk to the next girl.
I've been a try-hard for months now.
In doing so, I have let my old friends go, my family and several other interests.
Its not easy.

Alot of people get so into this that they lose perspective and begin to think of the world as guys=amogs, women=target or UG.
When you get to this point, take a step back and reevaluate yourself.

Step back and ask yourself "why am I doing this?" or "what do I get from this?"

I think my progress with The Game has been rather good. I have begun to learn the steps necessary to run a solid game.
I still have a long way to go.

You build up momentum and you don't want to stop. Your brain has laid down new tracks and you're simply acting in accordance to them.

Its hard to stop once you start. If I were at a bar and a fellow PUA walked in the bar, it would be difficult for me to stay away and not ask "how was my body language?" or "that's my set over there."

Recently, I went over to a local bar, Caves Lounge in Arlington. I met up with H.K. who is a really good PUA. He had a girl with him and she knew "somewhat" what we do.
I did the Cube on her for practice because she was bored and she might be entertained by it.
H.K. seemed to think that was ok.
But they were just friends out for a drink. H.K. and I talked fight club. I had Aladin with me the other night and we talked some fightclub in front of an AFC friend.

My point is that it is very hard to stop.

There are a few things you can do if you see someone out and you're not sure that its cool to run game with them.

1. They tell you they're not gaming. If they don't game, then don't game with them. Just follow their lead. They're with friends, don't assume that the friends know anything.

2. Ask. Ask if its ok. Or just communicate that you're out on the prowl.

3. If your fellow PUA is with someone, for God's sake, find out if they're dating, or friends, or FBs or whatever. Don't try to take her away.
The other day I ran the Cube, that's all I did. I figured it was a friend's night out and I didn't game her to the max.
Just Cube demo for her entertainment. That was it. No push/pull, no #close.
And I always looked at H.K. to make sure it was ok. If he gave me a sour look I would have excused myself immediately.

4. Do we need a code for "Go away?" Maybe a word or a hand signal. Not to be rude, just a simple word like

"Coca Cola" = "Get out of here, I will talk to you later"?

Can we all agree on that ?

On Ace and Mojo, you guys are good friends and vey good PUAs. You all should continue to sarge.
I know I've messed up people's sets in the past. I hope they forgive me for doing that.

Mojo, perhaps you need to take a 4 second rule. The extra second is for you to ask yourself "is the appropriate?"
In most situations, it will be and go ahead. If its another bro, first figure out if its cool.
Also if your purpose is only entertainment for others, I think that's ok.
If someone says "I'm out with friends." They should also say "coca cola"
to make sure the message is clear.

Just my thoughts
Tribulus