Guys Are F*cking Liars

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Guys Are F*cking Liars

Postby Mojo » Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:13 pm

Sean Newman with Pickup 101 wrote the following this in his blog. Good stuff.
source: http://seannewman.blogspot.com/search/l ... ner%20Game



Guys Are F*cking Liars

Ever had that guy at the office, or the bar, or at school, who just wouldn't shut up about how great he was with women?

He'll tell you all about the hot action he gets every weekend, or that girl from Accounting, or the girl he met on vacation.

Maybe he even starts laying into you about getting girls, asking you how many, how often, how hot.

He makes fun of you. He's cool, and you're not, and that's just the way it is.

Even worse, maybe you find out a girl you like kinda likes him.

And you are FURIOUS that she could possibly like a total jerk when all you are is a good guy, and it makes you hate him, and her, and wonder just what the hell is going on, right?

Makes you want to punch him right in the face and say to hell with it, doesn't it?

First, it's good to vent this. Go ahead and think about what I said. If anything like this has ever happened to you, I want you to remember it.

Remember how it felt to not have control or choice with women.

And remember how it felt when it seemed someone so much dumber than you did, and how angry that made you.

Now breathe deep.

Then make sure you exhale.

Ok, got it? Now listen.

Guys are jerks. Guys are really jerks to other guys who they see as threats, or who they see as moving past them on the social scale. This is ALL born of insecurity.

A truly cool guy, which you are, does not concern himself with gambits to keep other men low in the social scale, becuase he knows that cool is NOT a zero-sum game. It's an infinite resource.

One man's cool does not detract from mine. We enhance each other's status.

But for the guys who are most insecure, putting someone else down is the only strategy they have to make themselves feel better. They need you to react so they can assert that they have influence over you.

Here's my recommendation to you, and this is coming from someone who has worked in clubs and bars for years, competing for the hottest girls and never ONCE had to resort to a fight -- empathize with him.

Empathy is a great communication tool, and also the best way to neutralize someone who is being mean to you. Be strong and totally emotionally unaffected by his silly, low-level attack. Just let yourself feel you natural reaction and let it pass. Then look him in the eye and say, without a hint of sarcasm, "wow. I can really feel how threatened you feel now, and I totally understand how sometimes you feel you need to strike out like that. It's cool, man. You just do whatever you need to do, ok?"

Then walk away.

And just keep in mind one more thing about jerks.

There's something you don't know about their success with the ladies.

They.

Are.

LYING.

Every single one of them.

Ever heard a guy claim something like, "I can walk into a bar, and the first five girls I want, I can meet them and f*ck them."?

Anyone who says that is a fucking liar, and I'll cheerfully say it to his face.

Derek Jeter can't do that. George Clooney can't do that.

Even Bill Clinton can't do that. :-)

You know why? You're not SUPPOSED to fuck every girl you see. There will always be girls who aren't interested for whatever reason, and no trick, no technology, and no game will change that.

When I was getting crushed on a reality show, I met a guy who was STELLAR with girls. And what he told me made more sense than almost anything else I've heard since.

"Girls? Hell, man, it's just like sales. No matter how good you get, it's still a numbers game. You are going to miss more than you hit. But there's no penalty for swinging and missing."

That's what a guy who is really good with women sounds like. That's reality.

5 for 5? That's fucking invented geek fantasy.

I mean, there are guys who can sleep with attractive new girls anytime they want.

And you know when you meet one of those guys, because they won't brag about it.

Good. So now you know that part.

So keep that in mind.

But just because he's a jerk doesn't mean you need to be. Be stronger. Keep smiling. And simply cut him out of your life in whatever ways you can.

Make every effort to REMOVE negative, critical people from your life. If the people at work drag you down, get a new job. If your family keeps doubting you, send them cards at holidays. It's your life and you are beholden to none. Save your energy for you.

And, of course, cute girls.
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Postby Scoundrel » Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:24 pm

5 for 5 is a PUA master. Mystery did it once on a TV show (I can't remember which one, I'll look into it and get back to you) but, he later said it's the only time he's done it.
"Tell a woman she can't join your club and she'll do almost anything to get in."

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Postby H_Raja » Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:20 pm

Good post. Reminds me of two friends of mine, one of them really close. One used to talk about how much charm he had with the ladies. The other who I recently met told me he was going to show me how to pickup women. What were their numbers...1 and 3. Funny.
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Postby The Kidd » Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:10 pm

ya sounds like alot of guys i know and/or have talked to
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Postby Mojo » Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:37 pm

Guys are jerks. Guys are really jerks to other guys who they see as threats, or who they see as moving past them on the social scale. This is ALL born of insecurity.

A truly cool guy, which you are, does not concern himself with gambits to keep other men low in the social scale, becuase he knows that cool is NOT a zero-sum game. It's an infinite resource.

One man's cool does not detract from mine. We enhance each other's status.

But for the guys who are most insecure, putting someone else down is the only strategy they have to make themselves feel better. They need you to react so they can assert that they have influence over you.



Even though this quote was telling me what I already knew, it is always nice to hear it written out for others to see.

Some in the community come from an enviroment which made them insecure with women and with themselves. This is why they found the community in the first place. Though some learn the technology and skills yet do not have the emotional maturity to handle them with integrity. So I say to you, my friend, use this technology to build yourselves up, and not to break others down.

This is one of the reasons why Neil hinted at the more powerful techniques in The Game while not providing the actual methods and even providing an incorrect technique as to not let any joe schmo run around using some of this stuff. Again, much of the advance skills must be used with integrity. Also, down playing the community a bit at the end, again, very smart as to not encourage an army of joe schmo's flooding our ranks. Thank goodness, for many do not have the emotional maturity to use much of the powerful technology.

Finally, I leave you with Asian Playboy's 8th rule of being a wingman:

DON’T PLAY FUCKING MIND GAMES WITH ONE ANOTHER
That’s what chicks do. That’s not what bros do. Now maybe you wing with some Pick Up Artists but aren’t actually FRIENDS with them. That can happen and they want to subtly indicate they are more “alpha” than you. But that’s not what friends are about. Don’t fuck each other over.



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Postby V » Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:46 pm

Mojo wrote:Even worse, maybe you find out a girl you like kinda likes him.

And you are FURIOUS that she could possibly like a total jerk when all you are is a good guy, and it makes you hate him, and her, and wonder just what the hell is going on, right?

Makes you want to punch him right in the face and say to hell with it, doesn't it?


I've found the only people who think like this are the guys who have little to no game. When you're in the presence of someone who understands game, they don't hate. They sit there and either congratulate you or blow you off because they genuinely don't give a fuck. I know this for a fact because when I was a kid my younger brother and I had the same situation.

Between the ages of 13-16 my brother would get mad amounts of ass. Despite me being better looking than him, he pulled more women than I did constantly. When this started happening I'd get pissed off because he'd sometimes get a girl I liked. Hating them both, I'd talk shit about them in my head. Now that I understand the logistics behind picking up women, I learned to not care because I see how he's doing it. He still picks up more women than I do now, but only because I tend to go for quality more so than quantity.

If you want a real demonstration look at "The L Word" Season 4 Episode 3. When Shane and Papi first meet, Papi tries to hate on Shane saying they are the competition. Shane blows Papi off and goes so far as to say she wins and doesn't care. She does her own thing regardless.

A truly cool guy, which you are, does not concern himself with gambits to keep other men low in the social scale, becuase he knows that cool is NOT a zero-sum game. It's an infinite resource.

One man's cool does not detract from mine


This reinforces what I said above. Just because another guy is cool, it doesn't make you any less cool. Everybody is cool in their own way and a lot of people don't understand that.

But for the guys who are most insecure, putting someone else down is the only strategy they have to make themselves feel better. They need you to react so they can assert that they have influence over you.

Robert Greene actually talks about this in his book "The Art of Seduction." Never accept people for who they are externally. Most everyone you find is the exact opposite of the front the put up. The really aggressive and hateful guy that you meet? He could be the biggest baby you know. When you talk shit to him, it really hurts him but he won't show it.

Empathy is a great communication tool, and also the best way to neutralize someone who is being mean to you. Be strong and totally emotionally unaffected by his silly, low-level attack. Just let yourself feel you natural reaction and let it pass. Then look him in the eye and say, without a hint of sarcasm, "wow. I can really feel how threatened you feel now, and I totally understand how sometimes you feel you need to strike out like that. It's cool, man. You just do whatever you need to do, ok?"


I'm kind of torn between how I feel about Sean's wording and what I would do myself. I've had mixed results so you need to gauge what kind of reaction you would get. If you want to neutralize the guy, you could go with Sean's method or just destroy the guy with some method of AMOGing. The reason I'm torn is because if you choose to go Sean's way, the girl might think you're a push over and do not fight for yourself. If you go the other way and decide to AMOG the guy, she might think you're a tool for resorting to the same thing he is doing. Again, gauge your crowd.

There's something you don't know about their success with the ladies.

They.

Are.

LYING.

Every single one of them.

Ever heard a guy claim something like, "I can walk into a bar, and the first five girls I want, I can meet them and f*ck them."?

Anyone who says that is a fucking liar, and I'll cheerfully say it to his face.

You know why? You're not SUPPOSED to fuck every girl you see. There will always be girls who aren't interested for whatever reason, and no trick, no technology, and no game will change that.


I disagree with part of this statement. If someone is truly good his craft, he can pick up virtually any girl he wants. That's the whole point of running game. You want to get to the next level. Yes, there is always going to be girls who won't respond to your advances, but those girls are truly happy with what they have. Don't forget, part of the game is to give/show a girl what she is missing in her life. If nothing is missing in her life, then she's going to try blow you off. (or you fucked up along the way and don't realize it)

I mean, there are guys who can sleep with attractive new girls anytime they want.

And you know when you meet one of those guys, because they won't brag about it.


This is true for the most part, but there is always exceptions to the rule. It's the same reason why you see people doing little dances when they score a touch down. It's just part of a guys competetive nature to rub it in his opponents face.
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