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Voul
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Joined: 12 Jan 2007
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Location: Little Elm, Texas
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:25 pm Post subject: Hey guys
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Hey guys I just recently joined.
Sarging isn't TOO much of something new to me but I really do want to learn more. My old roommate and I still go sarging and practice sarging from time to time and he told me about this forum. So I went ahead and decided to try out this website to see what it's like.
I have read the book "The Game" but prolly need to go over the book again just for the fun of it and kinda pick up on things I might have forgotten that could be useful to my game.
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Welcome aboard. Glad to have ya.
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Vector76
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Joined: 02 Nov 2006
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Location: Richardson, TX
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 3:16 am Post subject: Friday 1/12
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Alright, tonight I guess I was just in the zone. I found my talkative mood and opened several sets and pretty much all of them went really well.
At one point I saw 2 guys approaching these 2 girls right next to us. Their body language was horrible, total AFC, the girls were not at all interested. I opened the guys and blew them out just to see if i could. I guess I am just mean like that. I had never really done that before. It was a lot of fun!
I sorta got an accidental situational opener. Some SUPER tall guy walked by, like 7 feet tall, and this girl next to me commented something (not to me really), and I said jokingly I'm going to pick a fight with that guy. You can take me to the hospital. I introduce myself to her and her friend, birthday girl, and tell them I'll find them later. I think this works really well because the takeaway makes me unequivocally not needy. Later I find them, 2 AFCs are hitting on them, I put my arms around both of the girls and greet them, "Hey, how the hell have you been? Long time no see!" They smile big and greet me back enthusiastically. The guys vanish.
One guy (me) and 2 girls is sorta awkward, so I tell birthday girl that I know the perfect guy for her. I bring Dex over and they hit it off. I wanted to game the other one but she tells me she's married. She was still really friendly though, so it wasn't like a "go away" kind of a statement. Not sure why she mentioned it right at that moment. Anyway I wanted to work another set we had been talking to earlier, and she had someone to talk to besides birthday girl, so I went back to the other set and left Dex alone.
Lots of other stuff too, too much to describe. No numbers or kisses for me but I had a blast!
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:07 am Post subject:
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it really was a fun night. btw if figured out what I did to blow myself out with HBBlond the second time (yes I did it twice) when we went back there I threw her cigarettes and lighter at her. I need to work on calibrating my negs. I started it with the HB at chaucers and have been kinfa overdoing it since. I wasn't doing it at all and now I am doing it too much. Dex is a good guy to roll with so we just had a great time.
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Joined: 01 Jan 2007
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:37 pm Post subject: Just read The Game - First Sarge Attempt
funkifrank
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Joined: 06 Nov 2006
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:51 pm Post subject: whats the business
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that's a tripp . .welcome to the community yeah that last pic is funny when you described it. I'm frankie . .
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:12 pm Post subject:
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Great post man.
Haha, Yeah, the last picture is a trip.
Tehee.
Welcome to the community, I'd like to hear more stuff from you man.
Hehe, Like your hat man.
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Voul
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Location: Little Elm, Texas
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:12 pm Post subject:
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hahah that last pic is classic! hey wutever works! lol
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Welsh_Dragon
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Joined: 27 Sep 2006
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Location: Dallas
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:25 am Post subject: FR: typical Wednesday night
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I pondered whether to post a field report from all my expeditions in Dallas and finally decided to in the hopes that you guys might get something from it. Those of you who know me understand I am very careful in Dallas due to my circumstances which is why I will not be posting any LR from this city. Feedback is welcomed.
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I decided to hang at my local joint in Addison as I have been in London for the past 2 weeks and Philadelphia before that so I have not caught up with the bar staff in a while. I also like to shoot a round of golden tee every now and again which they have there. I arrive around 10pm and Josh Goode, a local rock musician I know, is playing a gig there so it is fairly busy.
I can't stress enough the importance of having the bar staff and local scene people on you side. You only have to go a few times, tip well + initiate conversation and you are a regular in no time. It's one of many free DHV opportunities I enjoy and it's silly not to take advantage of that stuff in my opinion.
I had lost my voice from talking too much over the past few days/nights so this was supposed to be a quiet night. I talked to a few girls I know casually before approaching a 4 set - 2 guys 2 girls at the bar. HB8_Hawian had a big text book on English Literature so I opened with that and asked if I could read. I usually use situational stuff as it tends to work the best in these environments but it always needs to be calibrated. She was responsive with IOIs (smile, engaged convo, turned BL to me).
HB8_Hawian was with HB8_Engaged + fiance and another random dude who was like 8 feet tall. HB8_Engaged is a teacher and studied English also for University and HB8_Hawian is still in school to become a teacher. They also both work at the piano bar across the street. HB8_Engaged was clearly happy with her BF which I respect and, although he was mild AFC, i liked him as he didn't get all bent up about me talking to her and even was comfortable to leave them with me. She will be someone good to know. HB8_Hawian said she has a BF but was subcommunicating that she is looking for something else so she was the target here.
So now i'm in the set with only the two girls and we chat away about different books, London, the world in general and whatever. They buy me a shot and HB8_Hawian comes to sit right by me and she is a talker which is great since I have almost no voice left. The following qualification is the fucking key part with American chicks. Went something like this:
Me: I usually don't like American girls because they are all so shallow. Dallas is especially bad but you are different. I might even consider hanging out with you.
HB8_Hawian: Smile and Complete agreement. Pulls pin from hair which was beautiful and long. Why do you think I am different?
Me: Standard bullshit qualifiers tailored to her but ignore talking about her looks as American girls hate that. Something like we are both from other countries and America is foreign I miss home etc... Sorry guys I do tend to blast the competition and talk down AFC American Frustrated Chumps
At that point it's on and would have been time to escalate. There would have been some resistance to a SNL until I broke her out of the set and to be honest a better tactic with this girl would have been to day2 at some interesting location we had in common (art, theatre, etc...). I am not interested in making my situation here any more complicated that it already is so I just enjoyed the convo and ejected covertly later. She likely hopes for contact through the other girl that @closed me.
Last night (Thu) was my office work party which is a whole other story. Hope someone finds this interesting. Peace.
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Joined: 01 Jan 2007
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:10 pm Post subject: I hope I don't end up with a reverse Mohawk.
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:41 am Post subject:
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Elsewhere wrote:
I need to go buy a few pieces of clothing... how about I ask her if she wants to tag along so I know "the store girl" isn't lying to me.
I've used that as a day2, it worked fine. Before I invited her I asked, "how good is your fashion sense, on a scale from 1 to 10?"
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Location: Irving, TX
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:26 pm Post subject: My First Attempt with Flight Attendant
JohnnyBravo
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:48 am Post subject:
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Sounds like you need an attorney.
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Location: Plano TX
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:16 pm Post subject: Your job as a DHV
Voul
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Joined: 12 Jan 2007
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Location: Little Elm, Texas
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:42 pm Post subject:
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Well actually I've been trying to use my "soon-to-be" job. I'm going into the army in a little over a month.
I try to use this.
Me: "hey girls, I have a quick question that my friends and I were debating about. I leave for the army very soon. What are three/some things that you would want to do before joining the military?"
Girls: "blah blah blah"
Me: "well that's some good ideas, but I really gotta get back to my buddies. Hey! If ya'll want I've got a group of guys I'm with... why don't ya'll come sit with us?"
How does this sound? It KINDA worked a few nights ago at hibibi hookah bar but they very quickly came back at me tryin to call my "soon-to-be" military ship off a bluff. My friend then came over instantly cause he saw that I was crashing and burning and he said:
Friend: "Are you tryin to coax these women with your military status again. haha. What did I tell you about that!"
Girls: "O So he really isn't in the military, is he?
Friend: "O no he really is I pinky swear on it!"
Then he went on began to use the friendship test. (the 2 girls that he did the friendship test on were the main ones that were really shooting me down from the get go. So it gave me time to work on the girls that I was sitting next to.)
Now I'm glad I have him as a sarging partner but I know he's not goin to be there all the time. What would be some way to work my way outa that sticky situation?
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Vector76
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Joined: 02 Nov 2006
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:10 pm Post subject:
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I think you need to build more attraction before giving them big hoops to jump through. You need a false disqualifer to disengage their shield and you need to demonstrate more value. If you throw out hoops or qualifiers before you've built attraction, they don't want to pass your test. If right off the bat you ask, "Are you a fun person I should hang out with?" they will simply say "nope."
Accomplishment introductions are a good DHV. Your wing can say stuff about you that you could never say yourself without coming off as bragging.
Do small tests for A3 with small hoops. Then have them join you as a reward for passing the test. They're now cool enough to hang with you.
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Voul
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Location: Little Elm, Texas
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:22 pm Post subject:
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Vector76 wrote:
I think you need to build more attraction before giving them big hoops to jump through. You need a false disqualifer to disengage their shield and you need to demonstrate more value. If you throw out hoops or qualifiers before you've built attraction, they don't want to pass your test. If right off the bat you ask, "Are you a fun person I should hang out with?" they will simply say "nope."
Accomplishment introductions are a good DHV. Your wing can say stuff about you that you could never say yourself without coming off as bragging.
Do small tests for A3 with small hoops. Then have them join you as a reward for passing the test. They're now cool enough to hang with you.
ahh ok... well since I'm still fairly new to this is this a good way to start a convo, right? And what kind of false disqualifier or how would I present a false disqualifier in a situation like that? And what kinda small tests should I present?
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Vector76
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:44 pm Post subject:
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My opinion, the opener you have to be careful how you frame it, or you might DLV yourself. If you have so many cool things to do, you don't know which ones to do in your limited time, that's a DHV. If you're bored and don't know what to do with yourself, that's a DLV. Nothing that can't be overcome, but it's opposite from the direction you want to go.
A false disqualifier is basically you are telling the girl she couldn't be with you, for whatever reason. Do not be constrained to the rules of logic to come up with a reason! "I have a feeling about you, we would not get along." Negs sorta fall into this category but using negs so that they don't come off as insults is difficult.
Real disqualifiers are bad, like "I'm happily married with 2 kids." Yeah her shield might come down but you've constructed a big obstacle you now have to overcome. I'm not sure whether military duty falls into this category. Probably depends on what she's looking for, which works in your favor I think.
Anyone who's ever been in set with me knows I like to tell girls to tell me a joke. Ask if she's adventurous. Ask her to hold out her hand. It can be pretty much anything where you ask her to do something for you. The significance of the request will tell you the level of rapport you have. On the scale of requests, "come join me and my friends" is a big one.
Also, multiple small commands is easier than one big one. A few weeks ago I told a girl, "hold out your hand" and she held out her hand. I took her hand and said okay, let's sit down at this table over here. She and her friend sat with me and wing (we had been standing). I've heard it called "compliance momentum." If they agree several times, they're more likely to agree to the next thing.
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:07 pm Post subject:
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ahhhh ok! I really like the compliance momentum. I can see how I made a big command way too quickly. And I can see how "military" can be a bit of a DLV rather than a DHV. Well I have been working as a blackjack dealer for a local casino company... do you think that would be something that could be easier to work with as a DHV?
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Pr0wler
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:35 pm Post subject: Your most effective weapon...
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What do you find to be the most effective routine?
I personally find the explanation of "soul gazing" to work the most for me. I have a fairly small set of routines that i work from, but cold reading is also one of my more favorite routines. I feel the most comfortable when doing it, even though I know the least about it. Most of the time, i catch myself improvising a lot on these techniques because for me it really doesn't matter what i say, but as long as the kino is there and i don't screw it up too badly, then all goes well...
Any thoughts?
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:16 am Post subject:
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Metaphysicis. I love to talk about it and as TD says it's chick crack. It aint everyones cup of tea but when I get a set thats into it I can really roll on the nature of reality stuff. It also begs to be imbedded with NLP.
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:09 pm Post subject: A Call To Arms...
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One thing im quickly learning about this community is that their is truly a genuine interest in helping others out... I've been reading posts only up to this point and i'm finally seeing a true, tight knit "community" here. If anyone is interested in going out sarging, im down. PM me if interested. Lately, as in last night and the night before, me and my buddies have been hitting up Jasmines and the mall. My buddies are still in the early development stage and are just getting into the community, but Ive been into the seduction theory for many months now... I'm 19, I live in plano, and im ready to broaden my horizons in the art of seduction... Give me a PM and lets go...
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:19 pm Post subject:
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Likewise! Pr0wler and I both know each other well and have sarged with each other from time to time after he introduced me to the book "The Game." We both would like to "broaden our horizons" by sarging and learning from other local PUAs. Pr0wler is the wing that I spoke of here http://dallaspua.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=399 . gotta give him the credit for backing me up and making sure I didn't crash and burn all on my own... haha.
So you can PM me as well if you are up for sarging... Cause where ever it is I'm game!
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:51 pm Post subject: Friday 1/12
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Hey some of us guys are going out, not sure where yet.
Call or text me if you want to come. PM if you don't have my number. Or call Deucex.
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too bad I already have plans... I'd like to get a learning experience in.
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