Body rocking

[the_devil]

I have a feeling I'm doing it when there is one of those Israeli girls trying to sell me something I don't want at the mall. You know like when you don't wanna be rude and ignore them but you don't wanna stay and keep talking to them either. Kind of non verbally communicating "I have somewhere else to be"

Is that what it supposed to be/feel like?

[Scoundrel]

Yes! Good way of putting it.

[Gamble]

So next time you see an HB doing that... STEP UP YOUR GAME!!! Now that you klnow how it feels, learn how to counter it. What would make you stay and talk to the lotion girl? Use something to that extent on a set that's giving you negative body language.

[the_devil]

Its kind of funny the only one that I actually stayed and talked to was one that locked me in with her sea salt crap she was selling. She snuck it on me because I was so close to her, it was like she was pouring it out and I was compelled not to let it fall on the floor. I guess I need a big fuzzy orange hat as a lock in prop LOL!

[Scoundrel]

I had one of those chicks try to sell me some kind of anti aging eye cream. I told her I didn't think I needed it. She said "Oh, I think you do." So, I I tossed her soap sample back at her and said telling people they're ugly is not the way to sell them a product and that I regularly have sex with women less than half my age. I said that I'm a man and looks didn't matter. At that point I'd stolen her frame and had her stuttering, trying to get it back. It was funny watching her dance.

You can use a lot of game on them and keep her off balance. Flip the script, accuse her of flirting with you, "Hands off, this shit ain't free," etc. I've never closed one, but it's fun to practice on them.

[irishvc22]

No offense Scoundrel but you said "I I tossed her soap sample back at her and said telling people they're ugly is not the way to sell them a product and that I regularly have sex with women less than half my age. I said that I'm a man and looks didn't matter" I think this sounds needy and uneeded. Im new to the forum and you probablly know more than me but it just sounds...childish and it seems she hurt your feelings more than you were trying to "run game" on her. Not trying to start trouble just saying

[Tribulus1000]

No offense Scoundrel but you said "I I tossed her soap sample back at her and said telling people they're ugly is not the way to sell them a product and that I regularly have sex with women less than half my age. I said that I'm a man and looks didn't matter" I think this sounds needy and uneeded. Im new to the forum and you probablly know more than me but it just sounds...childish and it seems she hurt your feelings more than you were trying to "run game" on her. Not trying to start trouble just saying

Scoundrel is a good friend of mine and he'll forgive me if I agree with that assessment.
Its really reactive. The reason she was stunned was not because you stole her frame, it was because you reacted so vehimently.
And to then qualify yourself by telling her that you sleep with younger women isn't winning you any points.

She definitely messed up by insulting you.

She did what I call an 'ego hit'. And don't think that I attack you personally because I too have done this sort of thing. We live and learn.

My old mentor had a signature like this "Reactionism is the #1 Enemy of All PUA's. Kill it." So being reactive is our #1 enemy.

[Scoundrel]

I wasn't trying to pick her up. I wanted to steal her frame and I did. Besides, what I can't convey to you here is my tone and body language. I had her jumping through my hoops. So much of the game isn't what you say, but how you say it. But, if you guys want to think I'm needy... I just have fun jacking with people.

If anything I say sounds good to you, take it and use it. If not, don't. I know it works for me and that's all I care about. I'm having fun and getting laid.

[irishvc22]

Okay...maybe I just have alot to learn about pick up, sorry man

[Scoundrel]

Okay...maybe I just have alot to learn about pick up, sorry man

I understand where it came from. No need for a sorry. This is a forum and we're all here to learn and help one another. I don't know everything and neither does anyone else.

The thing is you really can say anything as long as it's coming from the right place or frame. What I said to her I said in a playful, cocky way. I was smiling, I'd busted her an she knew it. I had fun watching her try to recover. She was trying to show off for a new girl she seemed to be training and I made her look like a fool.