In a real need of help here

[Neloth]

Hi guys!
First of all I have to mention I'm not from Dallas, nor the States. I come from a small town somewhere elswhere and found your forum while searching online. Must say its one of the best ones and i spent quite some time reading stuff posted here. But there is one question i couldn't find find a answer on.

Its not directly connected to picking up but deals with man woman relationships and I would really like if you'd help me get skilled enough to get over this problem.

It's about a girl i know for about 3 years. First two years we had a kind of deep friendship relationship but she was always more into than me (could tell by the way she spoke to me, constant KINO...) though i never went for it since her BF was one of my good friends. One day a few months after they broke our we went out and i fell after her. She wasn't hard to get and we ended in a what was supposed to be a long time relationship.

Here comes the problem:

She dumped me about 6 months later saying some parts of me really irritate her and she doesnt fell attraction anymore. After that I did some really AFC-ish shit staying near her, even begging her to take me back and other shit im not at all happy i did. Now I decided and completely changed but i still get LJBF speach each time beacuse no matter what i do she sees me the way she did when she dumped me. I'm willing to even let her go, or to go with whatever crazy idea you're going to suggest me cause i would REALLY REALLY like to master this step.

Its different here than in Dallas cause its a MUCH smaller place and all the girls you pick up prolly know you from before. I'd like to know how to get a girl that wouldn't even consider seeing you as her bf.

Please help me get over this problem cause I seem to get many things right with girls but when it comes to being rejected and than making her WANT to change her mind when you really have no value in her eyes to begin with, i blow it.

With best regards
N.

[Westfall]

Hi Neloth,

Im intersted in making friends in the PUA community all around the world, because later in life I want to travel all over the place, and it would be cool to have people scattered across the world to hang with when I visit a forgien area.

Okay now for your question. You've got to change the frame. This is difficult because everytime you spend hanging out with her in the friend frame, you are reinforcing that frame.

I suggest stop talking to her, game other girls until you don't want her as much. I was a mess when my ex of 4 yrs left me for a douche. I got all AFC & needy, but then I improved my life. She gained weight. I wouldnt take her back now even if she begged. Thats the best outcome improve your life so much that she doesnt even qualify to be a part of it.

That said, be a little bit of a dick to her. Tease her. Dont be as avalible to her. Get her to qualify to you. Hang out with girls that are hotter than her around her. Ignore her while paying more attention to these girls.

Disqualify yourself from dating her. e.g. SUB communicate (thats important, dont just tell her) that you would never date her. You can do this by saying something like I think Im only going to date blonde girls from now on in passing or something like that.

I hope that helps.

Westfall