Dallas PUA

Yeah, so I'm a pretty skinny dude, but not emaciated or anything like that.

I'm wondering how long it will take to look decent and be able to fill out my clothes nicely. Obviously this depends on genetics and such...but I'm just wondering in general. 6 months? a year?

I've been reading a lot of stuff online and am pretty sure I've got the right approach to it. That is, eat big (lots of good calories, carbs and protein in the right proportions), rest and train hard. Fuck isolation nonsense. Go compound with squats, deadlifts, dips, bench, rows, etc. Drink lots of water. Take a multi vitamin.

I don't want to be a steroid monster type. I'm naturally tall and thin as it is, so I figure lots of lean muscle mass is good...

anabolicminds.com
Great site, great guys and info, and not all the drama found on bodybuilding.com
And NO Muscletech products!!! EVER!!!

At least a year. Lots of good info on forums.steroid.com , I wouldnt do steroids, but its a good site for workout routines and what not.

I managed to go from 138lb to 192lb without gear in 3 years. CEE, BCAA, and fish oil are the only supplements that really do anything. I went from 138-160 in roughly 6 months. Then, another year to get to 182, then another year for the last 10lb. I'm eating 4500 clean cals per day and lifting hard enough that someone asked me if I was crying a few months ago.

I recommend these links:
http://www.exrx.net/Lists/MMale.html
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=551687
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=506166
unfortunately I can't find thibideau's 5x5 link on t-nation but I had huge success with that. The gains were incredible. btw, if diet is not right, you're wasting your time.


Since you live in Lewisville too, you're welcome to hit the gym with me one day if you're a newb to lifting. I go to the 24 on main because its no-nonsense and not too many fagmos to delt-smash, and no mexican mafia.

parametric_dc wrote:I've been reading a lot of stuff online and am pretty sure I've got the right approach to it. That is, eat big (lots of good calories, carbs and protein in the right proportions), rest and train hard. Fuck isolation nonsense. Go compound with squats, deadlifts, dips, bench, rows, etc. Drink lots of water. Take a multi vitamin.

I don't want to be a steroid monster type. I'm naturally tall and thin as it is, so I figure lots of lean muscle mass is good...

I think its easier to eat clean and big, eat reasonably on your non-lift or cardio days, hit coumpound lifts of course, but also use isolations too. This is one reason I like 5x5 so much. You get to hit those compounds then isolate like circuit training, but for men...lol. Back should be your busiest day, because the back is so fucking awesome, and when you get a nice bfi% all that isolation work is going to pay off. Most of the stuff you listed are secondaries and not considered compounds. compound -> secondary ->auxiliary/isolation -> remedial (rehab/pre-hab)

isosceles cheese wrote: Most of the stuff you listed are secondaries and not considered compounds. compound -> secondary ->auxiliary/isolation -> remedial (rehab/pre-hab)

I believe what he listed are compound lifts.

Squat
dead lifts
barbell bench
barbell rows

quipster wrote:

isosceles cheese wrote: Most of the stuff you listed are secondaries and not considered compounds. compound -> secondary ->auxiliary/isolation -> remedial (rehab/pre-hab)

I believe what he listed are compound lifts.


barbell bench
barbell rows

bb bench is form dependant, and most consider bb rows secondary dependant upon posture. DB row would be compound. Basically, it doesn't matter.

I like http://www.bodybuilding.com they have a lot of info.

Also try and make sure you get at lest 8 hours of sleep a night. Your body does most of its work at night when your asleep, you don’t build muscle at the gym you rip it apart you build it while your sleep.

isosceles cheese wrote: I went from 138-160 in roughly 6 months.

Sheeit dirteee, I could do that in between Thanksgiving and Christmas while sitting down for holiday meals!

parametric_dc wrote:Yeah, so I'm a pretty skinny dude, but not emaciated or anything like that.

I'm wondering how long it will take to look decent and be able to fill out my clothes nicely. Obviously this depends on genetics and such...but I'm just wondering in general. 6 months? a year?

I've been reading a lot of stuff online and am pretty sure I've got the right approach to it. That is, eat big (lots of good calories, carbs and protein in the right proportions), rest and train hard. Fuck isolation nonsense. Go compound with squats, deadlifts, dips, bench, rows, etc. Drink lots of water. Take a multi vitamin.

I don't want to be a steroid monster type. I'm naturally tall and thin as it is, so I figure lots of lean muscle mass is good...

I'm a tall dude as well, and growing up through college i was a stick...super fast metabolism... classic "hardgainer"/ectomorph type. if that's you as well, you have to try harder than others.

sounds like you have good grasp of gameplan.

just alittle on my journey...A few years ago i set out to transform myself, which i did (since have slacked big time and put on some fat, but i've gone through the process to talk about it...

what i had to do was literally drag a cooler around with me. every morning i made an entire blender of protein shake and then split it into small 16 ounce drink containers. Religiously, every 2-3 hours I would take a protein shake to keep a steady stream of protein and calories. Afternoon shakes, i would also add 1-2 yogurts on the side to add carbs for the evening workout. Immediately after workout I would have a simple carb drink and then follow it up with good chicken dinner, all in the critical post workout refuel window.

I did this steadily and slowly transformed myself. If you are a true ectomorph body type, it really will take a much more dedicated effort that some of the other body types, that will have the ability to bulk up much quicker.

One of the BEST things i ever did for myself, and transformed my life...both just in general and related to PU....but it took me 1-2(more towards 2) to REALLY transform.

good luck...

edit: removed shit that just is pointless debating, even though it wasn't intended to go down that path, because it did