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General Rant about the Community

Posted:
Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:39 pm
by Finesse
///start rant///
Im sick and tired of all these people running around here thinking they have to be fucking "alpha" all the fucking time.... I'm tired of self proclaimed PUA's stating, "don't supplicate". I hate the fact that most guys in this fucking community think that women, aren't women. I hate the fact the most guys don't want to actually be nice to a girl.
At some point fellas, we're gonna have to pull our heads out of our asses and actually realize that women actually have fucking feelings too.
Im not naming any names, because this a general rant on the ENTIRE fucking community.
At one point the little" AFC voice" in our head IS good for something.
It's called a fucking conscience. Use it.
All pick up is, is a state of mind, and a set of principles on how women respond, it doesn't give you a right to treat them like shit, even though at times some may deserve it.
///end rant///

Posted:
Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:42 pm
by Finesse
Moral of the story is,
You don't have to act "alpha" all the time.
Being alpha is just something that forms from a mutual respect.
You cannot be alpha by disrespecting.

Posted:
Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:32 pm
by EL CHUPACABRA
I know you right brother!

Posted:
Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:35 pm
by Tribulus1000
Yeah that's true but what about you Finesse, I mean, what do you want?
That's the real question.
You can't right every wrong. Or change these guys. Or the women.
This community is about self improvement. We're not here to be therapists, who's got time for that?
-T

Posted:
Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:28 pm
by Welsh_Dragon
It seems to me most guys are too pussy not too alpha. There is a big difference between confidence and overcompensation.
Microcalibration is everything. The game changes constantly. Just playing one character role (i.e. "Alpha") doesn't work anyway. At least not if you want to lay them.

Posted:
Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:41 pm
by Bull Run
Finesse, you're right. There are A LOT of posiers out there. Maybe I'm one of them, maybe not. I'm not worried about what others think of me, I'm just worried with making my game better everyday. Making myself a better person everyday. Most guys aren't here for that, they're here to get LAID or find an LTR or mLTRs. I say FUCK that! You should be here to become a better person, period. Success without an identity is one thing, creating a rock solid identity. One in which that allows you to stand on your own two feet at all times is the only true success. Sure, you may not get laid a TON, but does that really matter after you've had some level of pussy? NO! Once you've tasted success, in the frame of lots of tail, you realize that true success is creating an infalliable (sp?) identity, constantly being a strong, sexy, powerful, sure, secure MAN! That's why we're here and it should be the reason you are too...

Posted:
Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:03 am
by Smirks
It all falls back to social awareness, imo.
Instead of being tunnel visioned by the things you learn here, you need to learn...wait no internalize...the difference between gaming and interacting with human beings. You need to find the common ground between the two. You cannot take every single interaction you have in to "alpha-mode" where you reframe every single moment of the conversation. You need to understand that there are certain social boundaries that you should not push with certain people. There are quite a few resources targeted at the pick up community that deal with social awareness...you need to throw that in to your learning plan as well.
This also goes along with learning how to wing. A wing is an AMAZING tool to have. Being a wing to your friend is also. You're not going to have a good wing if you can't be one yourself. You need to, at all times, be mindful of what your wing is doing. You need to not try to purposely burn his set because the focus wasn't on you for the time being.
Learn to gauge situations. Even though 90% of the methodologies out there basically beat in to your head that you're the only fucking thing that matters in this world, I strongly disagree. You will too, if you open your eyes.

Posted:
Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:41 am
by Dragon
uhhh... too nice or too asshole....
Both Extremes will be detrimental to a relationship.
I was too nice. I got step on and chewed up for thinking she was the one, my soulmate, my one and only. I read somewhere that is the beginnings of neediness and insecurity... and this is where you become the pussy and she lose interest in you. Being an asshole don't need no explaination.
The key is to find the middle point.
Society today are brainwashing us into believing being nice and fair is the right way, but it is not always. You don't need to get that glass of water for her when you are already nice and warm in bed. Have some self-respect. If you don't respect yourself or value yourself, who is going to value you.
To me, if I master the game... I am in charge and in control. But I will not abuse the trust.... because she is trusting you to take care of her, it is a freaking relationship between two people.

Posted:
Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:13 am
by H_Raja
TRUE alphas are some of the nicest people I have met.
I remember going to meet the dean of a college, all of his subordinates were rood and disrespectful, but the dean himself was very welcoming and friendly.

Posted:
Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:00 pm
by Twitchy
A true leader does not rise to the top by stepping on others but by helping those around him so the entire group can rise.
Ever had a boss that is a total jerk, condenscending to everyone and takes credit for everyone's work? Most everyone has. How much respect did you have for him/her? Not much. And I would be willing to bet that if you had the chance to cut a corner, bad mouth him behind his back or screw him over, you would jump at the chance.
Ever had a boss/mentor who everyone respects but who takes the time to help those around him, listens to people and will lead the group to solve a problem or get the group out of turmoil? That is a true leader. A true Alpha.
I get paid by companies to help them run better. I walk into a company and instantly have the ear of all of the top executives. And by the time I am done helping them, I have trained them how to do what I did, coached those that need help managing their people and left with some new friends in my rolodex.
I am regularly called "nice" by everyone around me, especially my friends, and will jump at the chance to help others even if there is nothing it for me. You never know when you will need a favor in return and it feels good to help others.
All that being said, I KNOW I am "alpha" compare to most guys. People respect me and follow me.
Those guys that have to put other's down or are jerks to "lead" or be "alpha" are usually dealing with major self esteem problems. Don't be one of them. They do not win in the long run. I would have trouble counting how many times that the company's main problem is just a jerk manager(s). After I recommend they be fired and put some metrics and structure in place, the company or division usually does a quick turnaround.