Dallas PUA

I don't know how you all feel about this. We know women are on message boards like this one.
A friend of mine was talking to one who was a member of a whopping SIX message boards!
Maybe they like the dick crack.

However, my feelings on this are that we should embrace change and accept women. They're like our customers.
We might have one as president! OH NO! Run for the hills!

Seriously,
It would be cool to have more women on these type message boards and to get their female opinions (no pun intended).

Its also great to see the out in the field.
BTW, If you are a girl and you enjoy pyschology and The Game and you want to hang out and sarge, PM me.

Comments?

Women are welcome here just as men are. I presume they are simply curious about social dynamics and the mechanisms of attraction just as we are. I agree that they can bring a different perspective which may be interesting.

I'm on a few other message boards that have women on them and its always gotten interesting to talk to them. One of the first things I've done when trying to help other guys understand them is to flat out interview her in front of him about all kinds of questios you wouldnt usually ask and then interperate what is is that shes actually telling the truth about and what she thinks shes telling the truth about. Its how I started getting better a long time ago you might try it some time. Get a list together of questions you would never have thought to ask a girl then walk around for a day asking random open women. Youll get lots of honest responses from women you dont know but, 'what she thinks you want to hear' answers from those women youve meet before.

the problem with women on message boards and in the seduction community as a whole is not them "finding out" or "exposing us" if they know all the more power to them, and i appreciate the fact that they are open minded enough to accept this type of lifestyle--point in case, my current girlfriend knows what i do and she is fine with it. most women that are completely open minded about this have simply a fascination with us and with the system of pickup. the problem comes in when you get a woman that isn't completely open minded or one that is rather opinoinated (most women are in my experience) and she wants to assert the fact that "oh, well you asking an opinon about a jealous girlfriend would NEVER work on me". they like to think that they are above these attraction switches and refuse to face the idea that they could become deeply attracted to a man simply by a few routines run in the right order. or that they could be seduced at all because "they are special" they are not the "average girl" and they are somehow "smarter" than that.....sure sweety--whatever you want to believe, but the simple fact of the matter is that these routines, games, openers, and the system as a whole WOULDN"T HAVE EXISTED FOR 10 plus years if this stuff didn't work. forgive me for venting but i've told many people men and women in the past about what i do and for some reason its about 1 in 10 women is actually open minded enough to get it, the other 9 refuse to beleive that it "would work on them"......your experiences?

There ARE women on this message board and at least one, a very attractive one at that, is very active.

I think it is great that there are women that want to know more about this community of guys trying to improve themselves. Whether they are involved for curiosity, for entertainment, for their own personal improvement or just so they learn the tactics guys talk about so they can avoid them, it is a good thing.

For most women however, I think it would be tough to have anything more than a cursory exposure simply for the fact that men are competitive and very goal driven so the posts often turn into how many girls has the PUA has slept with and how quickly can he can get one to bed vs. the self improvement aspect of the community. Its the video game mentality - score points to get to the next level.

However, any woman who has been involved for a while will hopefully realize the big picture of what the community is all about - we are a bunch of guys who were unsatisfied with our dating lives (maybe our lives in general) and are taking an active approach to improving ourselves.

Girls who hear just about the lines and openers may not have a positive outlook to this community because they might think these are subversive tactics to get them into bed. In reality, the openers, lines, etc. taught and passed around the community are just tools and crutches for the average man as he develops himself. They will not get the girl in and of themselves. They might generate initial attraction but long term, if you are not a confident guy who has his life together and has passions, any girl will quickly see through your facade. Most guys will too. I can easily spot "posers" out and about - Dallas is full of them.

I have been in the community about a year and a half now and don't even use canned openers anymore. The most complex thing I have done to open a girl in the past 4 - 6 months is smile at her and say hi. This works just as well as any opener does.

I wish there were more women involved. I wish they shared their perspectives more. I have always found it ironic that the community that we use to better develop our understanding of women is primarily made up of guys.....

Rainman wrote: they like to think that they are above these attraction switches and refuse to face the idea that they could become deeply attracted to a man simply by a few routines run in the right order. or that they could be seduced at all because "they are special" they are not the "average girl" and they are somehow "smarter" than that.....sure sweety--

I recall encountering this once. She refered to this as "voodoo". I recall telling the girl "In my experince, it actually works best on intelligent women....but you're right, this stuff would never work on you"

Dripping with Irony...

The whole point of joining the community and forums such as this one is to develop a better understanding of women and to improve the quality and diminsions of that portion of our lives. To that end the views and opinions of women can not be ignored. We could argue about the validity, honesty and integrity of such views and opinions but we should neither ignore nor dismiss them. The only thing I wish to keep out is malicious intent, haters, and prejudicial opinions and I have seen none of that here. Actually, though I'm sure many read the forum, I don't believe that I have seen any post by women here. I'd be curious as to what they'd have to say.

dubya wrote:I don't believe that I have seen any post by women here. I'd be curious as to what they'd have to say.

I'm sure you have. You just didn't know they were women.

i do so love when they boil it down to "voodoo" "magic" or my personal favorite "tricks and lies"........however they seem to have no problem with the "tricks and lies" of makeup, hmm quite the duplicitous view no? you have a problem with an AFC projecting a confident alpha male image, however you being a 5 (generous) and taking makeup to create the image of an 8 doesn't seem to phase you

several other examples:

photo editing....facebook myspace etc.
plastic surgery (though this does create real results--see an article from japan in which a man SUED his wife for false advertising after they had an ugly kid.....AND WON)
padded/water bras
high heels
patterns in texile designed to accentuate certain areas and draw attention away from others (ever heard the phrase verticle stripes make you look skinnier)
KNOCK OFF DESIGNER PURSES--to which EVERY girl has owned at least one

need i continue?

Rainman,

Are you suggesting that women are illogical and also apply a double-standard that allows them to justify doing the same type of behavior they critisize men for?

I refuse to believe a woman would be capbable of such.

Westfall