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highschool help please...

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:56 pm
by flare
hey everyone

So iv been reading and applying PUA techniques for about 3 months now... I have seen many results in general when i talk to girls... but i''m only high school so i can't really go to bars and sarge.

Anyways, on the first day of school, back in September, this girl (HB9) is in one of my classes. Shes younger then i am, so she took an older class i dont know why. So i have known her for like 4 years... but never talked to her... like i knew who she was... So this year, on the first day of class i opened her with the would u date a guy on a wheel chair opener.

So from sept. until now, we talk in class and if i see her around i talk to her.

She invited me and my friend over yesterday because my friend wanted to try weed, and she had. So i went with him, and we chilled at her hose for a bit and left.

So my question is,
How do i build attraction with her, and move it forward...

because i cant ask for a number, because i have hers already.

I cant really use routines like cube and stuff In class (only time i basically see her) becuase my friends are in that class and they will say WTF are you doing

I cant ask her to go somewhere with me because she might feel uncomfortable, and i dont know its weird.

i dont have a problem with outside of school cold approaches. They are in my oppinion MUCH easier. If she says no, i will never see her again.

with school, if she says no, or i humiliate my self, i see her everyday it will be sooooooooo akward.

i have negd her a couple times, and like i try and keep and alpha attitude beside her.

I feel she MIGHT be a little attracted but not really...

Also, there is a trip somewhere far, and only a few kids are going. I happen to be one of those kids, and she is also coming also. When i told my friend i might not come, she said nooo come itl be soo fun. She also said we will party alot and it will be fun!

So guys... any help would be greatly appreciated!

i try my best to solve things on my own but this one.....

Thanks again. (sorry for long post)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:45 pm
by Afterlife
Do the cube, Show your friends another one like it and she will more than def. ask you to show (then bring in the cube)her but make sure u got it down first

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:56 pm
by zrONE
Hi Flare,

May I ask how far through high school you are? What grade are you in? I'm not too much older than you regardless (21). You are going to HAVE to step up out of the friend zone, that you may already be in. I was somewhat of an AFC through HS, and if I can tell you ANYTHING it is to step up and game her. You WILL regret it if you don't. If there's one thing I've learned through this is you cannot be scared to make an impression. You can't be scared to step up. I'm going to try to think in a HS frame of mind so here's the best I can offer:

Assuming you are old enough to drive/have access to car, ask her to study with you some night. Get her over to her house and if she gets dropped off instantly take her off to coffee. If she drives herself do a bit of studying, then bounce her to coffee. Once you get to Starbucks or what have you, move in with the cube (or I prefer something similar). You should be able to milk the coffee house for a good 45 minutes of building attraction and begin to get into the comfort stages. I may start a new topic after I post this, but this time of year I VERY much suggest bouncing her to a haunted house afterwards. I dated an HB9 in high school for 2 years that I pretty much lucked into, but on one of our first meetings we went to a haunted house and I was able to play up being her protector. Looking back, I honestly think THAT is how I was able to pull her. You should have started escalating the kino at the coffee house and take that to the haunted house. Once you get there, act like she is already your girlfriend. DO NOT be scared to do this. Get out of the car, grab her hand and go in. If you built enough attraction and comfort already she will be ALL OVER you in the haunted house. Don't be surprised by this and act like she SHOULD be doing this. After all, she's lucky to even be out with you. Get her back in the car and head back to your place. I don't know anything about you so I don't know what to suggest but you need to suggest showing her something to get her into your room. Get back home and take her straight there. By this point your inner game will come out and I guarantee you will know what to do. Basically by the end of the night ideally you are kissing her on your bed. Hold off on getting into the seduction stages. At that age girls are still trying to figure out who you are and one of two things will happen if you sleep with them that night. Neither is a good thing. Do not try to arouse her. The kiss is merely to build comfort. I hope this helps. PM me is you need anything else.

Good luck and let us know!
-z

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:47 am
by creeper421
Best thing for you to do is start trying to mack some other girls. Get her advice on them. Let her see that you are a little bit of a commodity. If you are new to picking girls up in high school, you have probably not built the ladies man rep yet. One thing I remember from high scool is that girls almost had to be in your social circle to date them so their friends would all have to approve of you too. Start flirting with her friends. They are the ones that really influence her decisions. Make them love you. Hope it helps.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:22 am
by Rainman
really? high school? wow--maybe a little too early to take some of these teqniques but never too early to start learning the frame work. anyway look the ultimate goal is to get to fuck this girl right? well then become that guy she would leave you to fuck.

you ALREADY HAVE ATTRACTION FROM HER. let me say that again for emphasis YOU ALREADY HAVE ATTRACTION FROM HER, girls (especially 9s) dont waste their time with people they aren't interested in how many other guys does she have the ability to talk to? and she invites YOU over to do shit? and she talks to YOU? you've got attraction man whether you realize it or not.

heres the deal don't worry about your friends thinking something you're doing is wierd they may give you shit but thats because they will see how into it she is (i have YET to see a girl who didn't LOVE the cube), how much she is enjoying herself and they want to be able to do it. how do you think we handle the bitchy friend in the field? do we worry about if shes going to think "im wierd" for talking to her friend? fuck no! im there for that short cute little blond and thats it nothing else exists in my world but me and her.

show her you are a desired alpha male flirt with other girls in the same class (yes even the ugly ones). then invite her to do something in your world, something "you are already going to do" for you the options are somewhat limited, but tell her you are going jean shopping this weekend and need a female opinion tell her she should come along....talk about chick-crack they love fashion and the fact that you're telling her you like her sense of style and want HER help with it is huge. if she says no then its not like you asked her to a movie just the two of you right? there is no rejection there "because you were going shopping anyway" and when you come in on monday if you HAPPEN to have a great DHV story about what happened then all the better

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:50 am
by Finesse
Grab your balls, and lead.

Tell her what you want done, dont apologize (unless you insult her you bastard.)

These are just a few random things.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:09 pm
by Rhody
I was reluctant to give advice here, because I am so far removed from high school. However, I really wish I could go back in time and give the high school me some advice. If I could, here is what I would say:
"IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER!"

At that age, everything seems like such a big deal. Will she like me? Will my friends think I'm weird? Will she be uncomfortable? Is my haircut cool? Are my clothes hip? If a girl shoots me down, will people laugh at me? You think all these things matter. But they don't. Nobody notices. Even if they do notice, you're too cool to let it bother you. Frame is everything. If you act like it's no big deal, then their perception is that it's no big deal, and the reality is that it is NO BIG DEAL.

Think about the most popular kid in your school. Do you think he cares if you think he's weird? When he asks a girl to meet him at the mall, do you think he's worried that she'll feel uncomfortable? Maybe a little bit. We all have some instinctive anxiety, I guess. But that guy is too alpha to let it stop him. You're in the game to be that guy. So stop worrying about all that stuff.

IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER!

If you can internalize that, then girls will not be a problem at all.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:54 pm
by flare
wow!

i didnt think i would get so much help

wow this is really going to help

i guess you guys r right. It shouldn't bother me what girls think. now that i look at it, the "natural"in my school doesn't care if hes rejected or if he looks like a fool.

and that shes already ATTRACTED to me! i never even thought of it that way. It makes so much sense!

thanks alot

So the cube, and most of those routines like the 5 questions and doing the 1-10 trick, are all of the DHVs?

or are those attraction routine?
I think my main problem is that now that i use game on girls i know, i get alot of IOI, but when i think about it, even before when i wasnt gaming them i got ioi by just talking to them.

So this makes me a little worried to close, as i dont know if they are really interested or if they ALWAYS throw IOIs at every1 lol

thanks again for your help
greatly appreciated!

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:11 pm
by Erock
Haha why are you posting on Dallas PUA if you are from Canada? Whatever, let me help you out.

I just graduated from high school and I have to agree STRONGLY with Rhody. IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER! It's very hard to change your image, especially if it is well established, and because a lot of attraction in high school is based on how many girls you've already been with it can be tough to get in the loop. Just do the best with what you got for now, that's my advice.

Erock

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:33 am
by Atlas
Listen, first rule of being PUA is don't give a shit. I just graduated high school, so I'm not too far out of the loop. Honestly, if you can give off enough confidence, no one will question how much your gaming this girl. Do everything you've read in these forums about body language and conversational lessons. Imagine the guy who would be her ideal guy, and become him. Act, talk, walk, and even breath like you think this guy would be. Dress in the style of guys she goes for without losing your identity or becoming a huge conformist. For high school, most girls like preppy guys so if you wear hollister or ANF you should be fine. Most of all, if your older, take her places. Prove your DHV. You're an upperclassman. Prove to her your superiority. Invite her to an older party. Drive her somewhere. Open up opportunities to her that she couldn't experience without you and USE these DHV tactics. Reiterate often that shes just a baby and how much younger she is than you. If you bring her to a party, walk away for a while...she'll be looking for you. When you finally come back, she'll be relieved to see you. Basically neg and DHV this chick and show her that YOU"RE THE MAN. Remember...your game's a ten.