I need some help with Facebook game.

[TheRussian]

Here is the chick: http://photos-126.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sctm/v128/8/71/44400126/n44400126_30930072_2739.jpg

We have some common friends.. I had my friend who is a girl, call Mimi and tell her that i'm a cool dude. Now I need advise on what to say next.

Here is our conversation:

Me: I saw your profile on one of our common friends list.. Your Mongolian eh? I always wanted to meet someone from Mongolia. Lets meet for a cup of coffee, i'll teach you some Russian or Hebrew. You guys invaded my homeland =)

Her: my best friend is russian. you guys have a pretty awesome language.

Me: Haha. Russians are the best. Let's sign a peace treaty between mongolia and Russia. I am taking the LSAT this weekend, however I have about 30 minutes to meet on Monday afternoon. =)

Her: i don't know about meeting strangers off the internet. i think my mother told me something about how that's not a good idea once. good luck on the lsat, that's totally awesome. i didn't sign up for the sept. 29th one at UTD on time, so i'm taking it in december. gimme the ~inside scoop~ okay.

Me: Jomama is wrong. She wasn't born during the internet age. We can hang on UTD campus.. I know that this is a lame way to meet new friends, but I truely am interested in talking to someone from mongolia.. That is such a weird place to be from =) 3PM on Monday, we can meet up at the pub or something. Write back

Her: the last thing i'll ever know in this world is the smell of burgers in the pub, followed by a chloroform-soaked rag clamped over my mouth.
seriously though, i won't be free 3pm monday, i have a lab midterm at that time. sorry!

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She is definately gaming me.. it almost seems like a bitch shield.. What do you guys think should be said next?

[Rhody]

I'm struggling with the same thing on Myspace. I can have some great conversation going and when I ask for the number or a meet it just dies. Here's an example:

believe me you will have to work hard to get the sex back.. ha ha. I love the mavs.. And of course I can't sleep when your not here,, sad huh.. So whts for dinner

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Rhody
Date: Sep 3, 2007 5:04 PM


SPURS, BABY!

That was too easy. You served it right up in your myspace profile.

When it comes to the NBA, I'm a free agent fan. It's harder to follow a particular team when there are 82 games and not many of them are on TV locally. So I'm currenlty a Mavericks fan; however, I also root for the Pistons and whatever team Cuttino Mobley is on (currently the Clippers).

I have no idea how you sleep when I'm not there to keep you warm. I'm picturing flannel pajamas and a handkerchief to cry into.

Ok, so we're back together. We should have a celebration dinner. But no make-up sex.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Staci
Date: Sep 2, 2007 10:52 PM


Well woudn't you like to know what else I have to offer..Ha ha. Ok this is really a deal breaker.. Who's you favorite basketball team? Answer carefully.. There's one team thats the complete wrong answer..If you get this correct we can talk about maybe getting back together.. Oh and I don't sleep on your shirt , you should remember how I like to sleep.. HA ha

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Rhody
Date: Aug 21, 2007 12:18 PM


Ok, maybe Tom Brady took pity on the Colts.

That's cute. You want to keep my shirt because it smells like me. You probably sleep in it, so I won't take it back.

Maybe I was too hasty. What do you have going for you besides your questionable taste in football teams?


----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Staci
Date: Aug 18, 2007 11:38 PM


Oh no I'm keeping your crappy CDs and your not grtting that shirt back either. By the way the colts beat those stupid patriots because we're better and Tom Brady threw interceptions.. too bad maybe next year, but wait THE COLTS are gonna repeat.. Sorry. Ha ha.. I want my key back, and stop peeking in my window.. You can't have me anymore.. Ha ha

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Rhody
Date: Aug 15, 2007 6:29 AM


How about the team that had the Colts down by 18 in the AFC Championship Game until the refs took pity on them?

Ah, the Colts. That's a deal-breaker. That's it, we're broken up. I want my CDs back.



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Staci
Date: Aug 15, 2007 2:41 AM


Ok if not the colts.. Who else, the colts are the only team that matters..

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Rhody
Date: Aug 13, 2007 7:37 AM


Not the Colts! You're one of THOSE people!

I asked for her number here and she said no because I'm some guy on the Internet. She didn't have a problem telling me she sleeps in the nude for me, but she doesn't want to give out her number. We need some online routine where you show that you're safe, I think.

[El Fenix]

Rhody,cut the football thread. take it super flirty and sexual. read el topos blog for some great super sexual escalations on text or IM game.

Russian, shes flirting back, but it seems like a legit excuse not to meet at that time. you could contine joking on her actually chloroforming YOU and her having her way with you because shes such a naughty girl

[Rhody]

See, I thought I had cut the football thread. I couldn't find the email, but we got onto the topic of what we were going to eat for our getting-back-together dinner. We were done with the football and basketball conversation, and we were roleplaying about getting back together. I thought it was time to work comfort, so I asked for her number. It's just easier to make a more personal connection over the phone or in person. But that's when the conversation went dead.

I have noticed this in a few conversations on Myspace. I wonder if women like to flirt on Myspace or Facebook because (in their minds) they don't have to follow throught with it. They can get sexual and then just end the conversation if they feel like it. But if you have their number or you've met in person, then it's harder for them to get sexual on a whim. You become a real person rather than a cyberguy, and they take a step backward in the interaction.

There has to be some dynamic at work here. There has to be a way to transition from cyberguy into a guy she has to meet in person. I'm going to be thinking about this.

[Rhody]

I'm going to try this:

Have you ever had a conversation with someone on Myspace and wondered, what is this person really like? You can't tell too much from a profile. Take you for example. You have a nice brief description of yourself and some pictures. You look cute. But I don't know what you're really like. Maybe you drool a lot. You might smell like moth balls. When people write emails, they measure their words. Maybe you have tourettes. How would I know? I'm thinking you might have a voice like Minnie Mouse. Yeah, I'm going to call you Minnie from now on, that's your new nickname.

I'm thinking a woman doesn't want all those presuppositions about her. She's going to want to prove me wrong. I'll test it out and tell you what happens.

[TheRussian]

Maybe stating the obvious and letting her know that for some reason there is stigma attached to internet meetings, however it has the same aspect of randomness and danger as a bar meeting. Perhaps by telling her that you can understand her, but that there is no logic in her fear will create a sense in her that you have social understanding, and are not naïve about the subject...

[Rhody]

That seems like it really fits your style. You give off a mysterious vibe that I can't pull off. However, you did give me some insight into my problem. I tend to be more playful in my emails. I need to make a statement of interest like, "you know, you make me curious about you." Create an email vacuum. Then I can bring it back, become serious, and be taken seriously.

[Finesse]

Rhody:
in my experiences philosophical isnt the way to take the convo. over the internet. save that for face 2 face. Keep it sexual. call her naughty.... literally. Like fenix said, read el topos blog, or give me a call and I can further delve into it. I have used it and I am working on my 2nd f-close since implementing it.

Russian:
Stop asking her out, right now you are trying to justify why its ok to meet her instead of give her a logical out. Focus on stuff like,"HEY!, get your ass to sherlocks tonight. and shit like that. it will be easier to take it sexual then. and again.... read el topos blog


http://the-red-mole.blogspot.com/2007/09/there-are-few-warnings-and-descriptions.html

[TheRussian]

Here is what I sent her. The question is.. When should I try to get her out again? Should I msg her next time I'm going to a bar and say to get her ass out?

Chloroform soaked rag Mrs. Chinggis Khan? You are worse then I imagined! Let me get this straight.. you just said that you will chloroform me in the Pub, and then have your way with me after your lab midterm? Heck, I know that this is the internet, but you gotta be less forward!!!

[Finesse]

To be totally honest with you after I have passed "the point of no return" I have never been able to regain the initial attraction after I have asked her out too much. I now just know that, that is what I was doing.

I have been working on it though, and I can tell you what doesnt work. Letting it go for anywhere between 1 week to 2 weeks. It seems something more imenent has to be done. Also, transferring to non-needy/disqualifying doesnt work, I think because you have already shown interest in wanting to meet with her. Also, once I have lost attraction I have had a 0% meeting rate once switching to a more domineering controlling persona.

My next guess is working the sexual part into it and accusing her of hijacking my mind. Telling her how much of a sexual monster she is.

I think that if that could accomplish attraction again, then you could then switch to the whole, im at sherlocks get your arse out type of thing.

I wouldnt tell her to get her ass out until you have ramped that attraction back up, because of my afore mentioned success rate.

As far as your comment that you sent her, if I had to guess (if you have lost attraction), you would either get no response or a very short response. (If you still have attraction) She would probably include like a fake "HAHA" and then make a comment based on what she is thinking(which will tell you HOW attracted she still is). Like Fenix said though, judging by her response I don't think she has lost attraction, but it could be a possibility.

Either way I would be interested in seeing her reply.

I hope this helps.