Setting up for Tonight? Or Setting up for the Future?

[Texas20]

Hello Fellas!

Just wanted to get a friendly discussion going.

In your personal opinions, what do you find is your goal when you are sarging? Or for the newer guys, what do you hope your end goal will ultimately be?

I'll provide a beginning to this conversation with my own preferences. I consider myself a very situational PUA. I love situational openers. I'm very socially aware and like to read the situation and adjust appropriately. For those basketball fans out there, I'd compare it to running a Motion style offense, anything goes as long as your reading the D and making appropriate moves. I would say I'm pretty good at reading when a girl wants to take me home, eject, give me a number, so on and so forth. However, I've noticed that regardless when I go out, my endgame usually isn't to go home with the girl THAT night.

Yes, I said it, I don't look for the f-close. Usually I don't even look for the kiss close! Been there, done that. It's exciting and all men should do it, but I have COMMITMENT issues. By that I mean there are usually so many girls out at the bars/clubs that I don't want to commit to one girl for the whole night. Ever find yourself talking to a girl at 1:30 am, knowing that to take her home you basically have to engage her and/or stay with her for the next 30 minutes. God knows it's even worse if she's drunk! Why focus on f-closing one girl when I can spend all that time getting 3 or 5 or 10 numbers at 5 different bars. (I will say there are a great number of exceptions, such as the girls that want to meet up later after you separate, or the sober girl that doesn't pass out and throw up).

I tell my friends "I don't set up for that night, I set up for next week." I've personally found that I enjoy leaving the bar with the guys, sharing the stories and doing what guys do, then following up the next day and continuing the game with the numbers I've gotten. I've made a steady stable of women that slowly come and go and found that it has increased my popularity at the bars, as well as my dating life.

By setting up for the next week, I game the girls further into dates and hang outs as well as more bar fun and eventually it leads to hooking up and sex. In my opinion, the friendship AND sexual relationship with these women last longer for me because they don't consider me a one night stand. During this time I also make it clear that I'm not looking for a relationship, I just wish to get to know them better and see where it goes. (Try to minimize lying to a woman, if at all. It's pathetic. Remember try to leave her better than you found her, not an emotional wreck because you lied about your intentions).

Of course all of this is what works for me and is simply my own preference.

So let me ask, what works for you? What is your preference and why do you enjoy it? What is you end goal?

-Texas20

[ninjamatt]

I think your post is solid but it is contingent on a few things. This actually sounds like something I would write but the atmosphere I do my game is a lot different. Some people knock the idea of getting a number and being patient for a few weeks and that's ok if you don't have patience or do not like to text.

You seem to be in a mindset that can lead to building up a stable of women over the course of a few days, or weeks or months, or even years. You keep some contact with them. Women almost always think they can find something better than some random PUA. BUT, if you know how to deal with them, a lot of women will end up coming back.