Comfort zones and girls?

[Khaos]

Has anyone noticed that they tend to do better in certain environments and bad in others? Furthermore is this a comfort thing?

[ninjamatt]

would you be more comfortable if you were scuba diving with sharks or watching them at an aquarium behind glass?

[Khaos]

would you be more comfortable if you were scuba diving with sharks or watching them at an aquarium behind glass?

Behind glass. The reason why i ask is because i was talking to a member of the old Dallaslair and we were talking about clubs. He said that he excels at daygame, while I tend to do well for myself in strip clubs and with hired guns (because my game is way different than PUA stuff and because I am a natural). We both don't like clubs that much even know that we arent terrible in them but its not something we are great at.

[ninjamatt]

would you be more comfortable if you were scuba diving with sharks or watching them at an aquarium behind glass?

Behind glass. The reason why i ask is because i was talking to a member of the old Dallaslair and we were talking about clubs. He said that he excels at daygame, while I tend to do well for myself in strip clubs and with hired guns (because my game is way different than PUA stuff and because I am a natural). We both don't like clubs that much even know that we arent terrible in them but its not something we are great at.

strip clubs and hired guns are going to be nice to you b/c they want money. That don't count for shit. a natural can meet girls anywhere, day game, clubs etc.

[Khaos]

would you be more comfortable if you were scuba diving with sharks or watching them at an aquarium behind glass?

Behind glass. The reason why i ask is because i was talking to a member of the old Dallaslair and we were talking about clubs. He said that he excels at daygame, while I tend to do well for myself in strip clubs and with hired guns (because my game is way different than PUA stuff and because I am a natural). We both don't like clubs that much even know that we arent terrible in them but its not something we are great at.

strip clubs and hired guns are going to be nice to you b/c they want money. That don't count for shit. a natural can meet girls anywhere, day game, clubs etc.

Used to be. I actually bang strippers and am well aware of their emotionally manipulative tricks. With the routes that I exploit I tend to do better in those environments . Ever since my ex,I have not been doing good with normal chicks(bars & clubs). At the end of the day the only thing that matters is value and being able to use yours to your advantage.

[Khaos]

Also you are wrong. Some naturals do well with things like one night stands but don't do well with dates and vice versa.

[ninjamatt]

well I didn't say Naturals don't do well at dates or one night stands. All I am saying is in my opinion a "natural" can do well anywhere. I use day game and club game to feed off of each other and cross train what I do. If I approach a girl at the grocery store tonight, I know the outcome doesn't matter b/c I will be out at the club tomorrow night. If you aren't doing well with club girls, work on it more it will help you overall

[Khaos]

well I didn't say Naturals don't do well at dates or one night stands. All I am saying is in my opinion a "natural" can do well anywhere. I use day game and club game to feed off of each other and cross train what I do. If I approach a girl at the grocery store tonight, I know the outcome doesn't matter b/c I will be out at the club tomorrow night. If you aren't doing well with club girls, work on it more it will help you overall

Thanks I plan on doing so. I just need to find a way to get out of this funk I'm in. I think why I'm lacking in the club is that I'm not good with mixed groups(tends to be alot and not enough girl groups where I go) but if I can fix that I will be well on my way to being good again.

[Texas20]

Khaos,

I think to some extent it is a comfort thing. Think about it in terms of playing a sport. You may be an athlete (pua) and you may be dominant in one or two sports (daygame/stripper game), but because you are an athlete you know you can probably try out or play another sport (club game) and at least pick it up, maybe even be decent.

Now let's say you keep practicing that other sport. You are eventually going to become more comfortable as you become more familiar with the rules, the players, the boundaries of the field, so on and so forth.

As to the natural argument, a natural doesn't have to be capable of picking up any girl, any time, any place. We are humans, not superhuman. Naturals fail just as AFCs and PUGs. It just happens. What the term "natural" means, is that they are naturally good and comfortable with women, enough so that they have the ability to pick up without much effort. Yet, any natural will have his preferences and his sticking points.

What's more important is that you recognize that there is a discomfort. Now you need to address that discomfort head on and form a plan of attack to get through it and deal with it.

-Texas20

[Khaos]

Khaos,

I think to some extent it is a comfort thing. Think about it in terms of playing a sport. You may be an athlete (pua) and you may be dominant in one or two sports (daygame/stripper game), but because you are an athlete you know you can probably try out or play another sport (club game) and at least pick it up, maybe even be decent.

Now let's say you keep practicing that other sport. You are eventually going to become more comfortable as you become more familiar with the rules, the players, the boundaries of the field, so on and so forth.

As to the natural argument, a natural doesn't have to be capable of picking up any girl, any time, any place. We are humans, not superhuman. Naturals fail just as AFCs and PUGs. It just happens. What the term "natural" means, is that they are naturally good and comfortable with women, enough so that they have the ability to pick up without much effort. Yet, any natural will have his preferences and his sticking points.

What's more important is that you recognize that there is a discomfort. Now you need to address that discomfort head on and form a plan of attack to get through it and deal with it.

-Texas20

true, nobody has airtight game( I honestly could not get every girl I wanted and its unrealistic for anyone to believe they can who does PU). To me at the end of the day the only thing that matters is I do well with the ones that I want. Natural means what you say it does and that the guy just figured out what works for him. My brother and I have been that way for a long time, we learned in childhood and it became ingrained in us to the point that it is habitual rather than thought out(reason why PU does not work well for me i.e. I can't think about it or I mess up).