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Reporter at last sarge meet. Read the news article here...

Postby Mojo » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:47 am

Cory is one of the writers for centraltrack.com, an online magazine focusing on the Dallas scene. Doing an article on the local PUA community, Cory had asked me not to make his presence known at the Sarge meet. His entertaining story follows...

Source: http://www.centraltrack.com/articleNightlife.php?id=777


Cock Block.

How To Spot A Quote-Unquote Professional Pick-Up Artist On The Prowl.

By Cory on Wednesday March 28 2012 at 2:34 PM


It's around 8 p.m. on a Friday night in North Dallas. But Triumvirate isn't getting ready to go out. Not just yet anyway. Neither are his cohorts, guys who refer to themselves with such ridiculous names as Morpheo, Tango and Voyager.

Before hitting the town with their military-like handles on so-called "sarging" missions to strategically pursue intercourse, they meet in the back rooms of places like Spring Creek BBQ to talk shop, give each other advice, discuss new tactics, share field reports on nearby bars and secure one another as their wingman for the night.

These men are part of the local seduction community, a semi-covert network of single men who prefer to call themselves pick-up artists (or PUAs for short), and they can be found in bars all over the Metroplex on a nightly basis, systematically searching for women to approach.

This is not a recent phenomenon by any stretch.

Ross Jeffries, the so-called father of modern seduction, has been spreading his methods for nearly 20 years. He is perhaps most famous for coining the term "sarging," a phrase meant to invoke the cat-like exploration and playfulness his pet cat Sarge had with his environment. It's a mindset he believes all men should embrace when on the prowl for hookups. It should be noted at this point that Sarge the cat is said to have since contracted feline AIDS.

But for all these men's practice with approaching and running "sets" on women in bars, even the PUA with the most sharply honed skills can be spotted and thwarted once one knows what signs to watch for.

Because, listen, guys who refer to books like Marcus Meleton's Nice Guys Don't Get Laid, Lew Burke's Dog Training, and Robin Baker's Sperm Wars as their bibles deserved to be cock-blocked just a little.

We recently sat in on one of these closed-door PUA meetings, in which the aforementioned Triumvirate gave us tips on how to pick up women and how to prepare your place for when you bring them home.

Aside from making us ashamed of our sex -- seems that the longer each guy has been involved with PUA, the bigger the misogynist and/or sexist he admits to being (somewhat to his credit, Triumvirate frequently refers to himself as an asshole) -- we did pick up a few tips. Like what our female friends should keep an eye out for if they want to avoid jerks like these.

One of the most widely-known methods, even to the non-PUA savvy crowd, is the practice of "peacocking." This technique calls for wearing some outlandish bit of clothing, or carrying around some sort of outrageous accessory. For instance Mystery, who hosted the VH1 series The Pick-up Artist, often sports a ridiculously oversized fuzzy top hat. The theory is that an accessory like this not only makes one stand out, but gives women an obvious thing to comment on if she's interested in starting conversation.

In Dallas, the peacocking items we heard discussed were more subtle, but no less obvious. For instance, Triumvirate suggested everyone at his meeting start wearing pinky rings at all times. We were also advised to have a fascinating tale at the ready on how we acquired the jewelry -- perhaps during one of our alluring vacations around the globe. Another guy who had been coming to these meetings for what sounded like years took things a step farther: He wore a thumb ring as well, leading us to the conclusion that the more rings a guy is wearing simultaneously, the faster a woman should run.

Much of the rest of the meeting centered on preparing our cars and residences for a female presence. The longer we practice the PUA methods, Triumvirate promised, the less attractive we would have to be to score an HB (read: hot babe). Until then, we were advised to cut out those late night trips to the Taco C on the way home from the bar, and instead encouraged to keep a bag of fresh fruit in the car so as to cut down on the temptation. Honestly, most single dudes we know have enough trouble getting in their daily serving of fruit at home. But, alas, if you reach into a guy's glove box and an apple falls out, you should probably begin preparing your escape.

Another thing to keep an eye out for is that guy that is just a little too prepared. Have you ever encountered that guy that ready for absolutely every situation, no matter how unforeseen? Not even the most loyal boy scout would have thought to pack a swimsuit in his trunk before he left the house this morning, but Triumvirate suggests this very thing for his clients. Hey, you never know when a girl's going to have a hot tub at her place! Or so goes the logic here.

On a similar front, Triumvirate also advised us to keep our homes ready for guests -- meaning that we should have snacks in the fridge, plenty of booze on hand and no dirty underwear on the floor. His biggest point of emphasis was cleanliness of the bathroom -- or as he saw it, an unwritten test all ladies give prospective partners before deciding if he's worthy to sleep with. In his experience, a lady will go from in-the-mood to in-her-car-and-headed-home the minute she spots the first hint of a soap ring in the tub.

Most single guys we know do, in fact, own a toilet brush. But rarely have we ever actually seen one in use. Point being? If a guy tells you he "never does this" (meaning he never takes women back to his place after a first date), and there's not a single pube to be found anywhere in his bathroom, chances are he was expecting you (or someone as susceptible to his moves as you ended up being) to wind up there.

Our advice if a bathroom looks a little too clean? Since you're in the bathroom anyway, linger just a bit too long in there and, if you're feeling up to it, make some gnarly vomiting noises. Trust us, he'll believe you when you come out and say you "just need to pass out."

These warning signs, of course, just mark the tip of the proverbial iceberg here. The PUA culture has evolved into a complex network of message boards, literature and social groups constantly developing new routines and methods of faux psychology to coerce the opposite sex into bed. We've admittedly only barely scratched the surface here on what to look out for.

Really, the only surefire way to avoid a pick-up artist in his tracks is to stay off his turf. In Dallas, that means keeping to places like Deep Ellum, where even the most season veterans like Triumvirate fear to tread. When we told him -- undercover, of course, as a fellow PUA of his --- that Deep Ellum is where we tend to "sarge," he seemed completely baffled.

"How do you guys deal with those art chicks?" he asked, flabbergasted.

Those tattooed, artsy chicks, he bemoaned, are just way too flaky. He's never had any luck with them.

Or any girl with any semblance of self-esteem, we imagine.
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Re: Reporter at last sarge meet. Read the news article here...

Postby Triumvirate » Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:02 am

A little exaggerated, but entertaining nonetheless.
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Re: Reporter at last sarge meet. Read the news article here...

Postby Bull Run » Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:44 am

An article written by a complete herb, feminist.

Plus anyways, virtually all women have no self-esteem, this despite the fact that women are very clearly the more valuable of the sexes for procreation.

Deep Ellum poses the same problems that any other part of the city poses. It's all about cliques. Uptown snobby chicks (clique), artsy girls with tats (clique), club going regulars (clique), etc. Very few parts of the city don't have some kind of clique working.

But, here's the real question: where's OUR rebuttal?
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Re: Reporter at last sarge meet. Read the news article here...

Postby Triumvirate » Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:57 am

My rebuttal drove herself home this morning. The only thing that I hope to do is parlay this into bringing guys to the site/meet-ups.
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Re: Reporter at last sarge meet. Read the news article here...

Postby Bull Run » Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:58 am

Triumvirate wrote:My rebuttal drove herself home this morning.



Nice.
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Re: Reporter at last sarge meet. Read the news article here...

Postby relax » Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:29 pm

Hm.. I remember sitting next to the author of the article and his buddy at the meet (click on the site's staff link to see their pictures). It's interesting how much he remembered about the meet because I didn't see that he had a pen or a paper. I'm guessing he must've been recording.

What I think is funny though is this 3rd rate article. A sensationalist title, misleading subheading and an article that has nothing to do with how to spot pick up artists. It seems to be more of a jab at the community rather than helping people cock block/spot PUAs as the title and subheading seem to suggest.

If I was a chick and read this, what signs would I look for to spot a "pickup artist"?

    Does the guy approach groups of girls at a bar?
    Does he wear rings on his fingers?
    Does he own a toilet brush?
    Does he keep booze and food in his fridge?

Well, looks like he's a pickup artist if he fits the bill above (according to the author)... Shitty article but great for a laugh!

P.S. What does he have against the handle "Voyager"? Awesome handle if you ask me! ;)
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Re: Reporter at last sarge meet. Read the news article here...

Postby voyager » Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:24 pm

Triumvirate, you gotta be doing something right if people are writing you not just hate mail - but hate articles. I honestly don't remember meeting this guy at all, even after seeing his picture on that site. http://centraltrack.com/staff.php

"Cory is the founder of Subservient Experiment, often regarded as the sixth best music blog in Dallas."

^We're dealing with the big leagues now guys.




relax wrote:P.S. What does he have against the handle "Voyager"? Awesome handle if you ask me! ;)


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Re: Reporter at last sarge meet. Read the news article here...

Postby IsiMan84 » Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:35 am

Watch out Dateline NBC. Watch out Geraldo Rivera. There's a new gun in town, and his name is...Cory. Was there not enough real stuff to report on that week? Pretty sure at least a couple people get shot in Dallas every day.

It's funny he's defending women (or fighting against PUAs) since the idea of pickup is basically just to expose the emotions women have towards a guy, or get them to do things they already want to do. It's not like we're putting them in trances or hypnotizing them or anything else out of their control. The majority of PUAs are less fake than the typical Affliction-wearing douche bag who leases a 3-series BMW so he can tell women he's a big time promoter, or whatever his lie is.

Sounds like that guy's probably just butt-hurt over that one time he lost a girl he was pining over for weeks to a guy who actually knew what he was doing. Considering there were a whopping 15 guys at the meetup (of which probably half regularly go out), and the typical bar on a weekend houses upwards of 200-300 people, there's at least a 10x better chance of running into one of the Affliction douche bags.

On top of that, the guys who are really good at pickup, you can't tell are using pickup. Soooo in reality he's telling girls not to go for the noobs. Which means the way of the world hasn't changed one bit. Anyways, as you were.
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Re: Reporter at last sarge meet. Read the news article here...

Postby Bull Run » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:14 am

IsiMan84 wrote:It's funny he's defending women (or fighting against PUAs) since the idea of pickup is basically just to expose the emotions women have towards a guy, or get them to do things they already want to do.


PUAs serve a very, very important function in society. We learn what we learn so that we can actually fulfill the desires of women...their real desires. We're actually doing women a favor, not a disservice. It's symbiotic. Women get to have the experience of being with a man that understands them and can direct them to a 'world' they truly want to live in, we get to bask in the glory of her feminine beauty and love...oh and sex.

Being seduced by a PUA is most definitely a pleasure for a woman. The only issue is that we have much higher standards and, as such, don't always stick around as long as other men might.
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Re: Reporter at last sarge meet. Read the news article here...

Postby Mojo » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:53 am

Hey fellas, I wouldn’t worry too much about what Cory wrote about. The media tends to have fun with such topics. Just read the article D Magazine did with Asian Playboy back in 2006: http://www.dmagazine.com/Home/2006/05/0 ... Babes.aspx

Anyway maybe magazines don’t want to chance isolating half their readers (i.e. females who hold a negative connotation on “pick up”) that don’t understand the positive aspects of the community.
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