Frame Control by Sinn (repost)

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Frame Control by Sinn (repost)

Postby Tribulus1000 » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:00 pm

Frame Control

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What is frame control?
To understand Frame control, we must first have an understanding of frames. A frame is the surrounding meaning of any interaction. It is as David Deangelo likes to say your reality.
In an interaction between two people, whoever has the stronger frame/reality wins. The weaker frame/reality is absorbed into the larger overall meaning set in the more powerful frame.
It is extremely important to set the frame in the interaction. During some sarges your frame will be pulled at from all angles.
The target, her friends and AMOGs can all attempt to put you into their frames.
Take for example the classic shit test "are you a player". This is an attempt to slot you into their frame. If you say no you are defending yourself and look insecure, if you say yes you are trying to look cool.
So what can you do?
1. You can ignore the comment entirely and plow forward with your specific personality conveying material.
Ex:" are you a player"
PUA: Oh man you know what I saw today? (start routine)
This is IMO the best way to hold your frame, but the girl can just repeat the question until you say something if she really wants to be a pain.
2. You can reframe the quesion by agreeing and then taking the accusation to absurdity.
Ex: " are you a player"
PUA: What is it about players you like so much? I actually am a card carrying member of the ancient order of makeout whores. My father was a makeout whore and his before that. It's a great honor. Anyway (stack to next routine)
This is good as you can quickly make the test looks stupid by agreeing and then taking her frame even farther until it is stupidly funny.
3. Reframe by shit testing her.
EX: " Are you a player"
PUA: Are you just a typical San Diego party girl?
This shit test like the question are you a player is a double bind. Meaning that either way she answers I am putting her in my frame. If she says yes I dismiss her saying that i know what those are like and they are trouble. if she says no i tell her that's good becuz i am sick of those girls but she's probably not adventurous enough.

Double binds are awesome and we should at some point establish a master list of them.

4. Reframe by misinterpreting and then disqualifying
Ex: " are you a player?"
PUA: Oh my god you are attracted to me! It's too bad your not really my type.
This is really good too as you are doing two things defining her as attracted to you and then immediately disqualifying her . This sets the frame that she wants you but cannot have you.
5. Reframe the underlying meaning to her chasing you
Ex" are you a player"
PUA: You know your not gonna talk your way into my pants like that, If you want me your gonna have to do some serious courting.
This similiarly to the last one sets the her chasing you frame but this more off the wall. This is like one part ignorance and one part reframing so that she is chasing. however it is a C&P line so it should not be used past A2. This works even if she disagrees because it is funny enough that she will laugh and by laughing she is subconsciously accepting our frame.
6. Going completely illogical. This is a part of ignoring except you go off the wall.
Ex " are you a player"
PUA: " my friend eats lemons" ( stack to next routine) credit Jlaix
One part ignorance , one part humor with some illogic chick sense jumbling non sense thrown in. This lets her know that you will not take her hoops. Especially if every time she puts a hoop up you say the same illogical thing, it becomes call back humor while reinforcing your frame.

Anyway I am exhausted so I'm sure I forgot something so feel free if you have other ways of holding the frame to chime in.
J
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