Dumbing down your language?

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Dumbing down your language?

Postby Guest » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:48 am

I sometime have trouble talking to people
I mean, I'm not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed
but sometimes, I feel like I have to dumb down my vocabulary
or my talking subjects
like I can't talk to anyone about Politics, or Religion, or Technology, or astronomy.
One time I let it out.
I accidentally brought up the story about the scientists at CERN's success in creating, and trapping Antimatter, and this time for 15 minutes
Pretty cool shit, ya?
but everyone's eyes glossed over..."uh...what? Antimatter??"
"Oh shit, I meant...yeah...remember that time that Snookie..."

And it doesn't help any that I'm pretty conservative...and most young people are Liberal...I mean, I'm not wacko Conservative...though I am voting for Ron Paul...but then...that might qualify me for "Wacko"

I guess the thing is, I'm having trouble relating to most people in my age group...Should I fake liberalism? It's hard to keep these subjects at bay considering the political, economic, and social climate we're living in. and My viewpoint isn't PC at all...
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Postby Guest » Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:37 pm

I struggle with the same thing. Personally, I often wonder where the women with brains are. Keep the intellect, and the politics. Be genuine to yourself and fuck all the retards. That's my opinion. I think they are more attracted to men with brains personally.

On the flip side though, is content relevant to the setting. We all know that you don't talk about that big shit you took this morning in the boardroom. It was 80 Courics! You don't talk about anti-matter at a club, unless it's the science club. :P. I find keeping the tone light and fun get's me the number. During the day2, I can let my more "brainy" self out of the bottle.

One final note is that in my experience, politics, religion, and highly controversial topics should be doled out slowly, and not dived into all at once. You'll scare her away if she finds out all your freak at once.
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Postby Guest » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:00 pm

Being social isn't the same as "dumbing down your language."

If you can't relate to people, then you've got a problem. And it's not their fault. It's yours. If you talk to people with an air of superiority (which is the underlying tone of your post here and the one on online dating, where you complained about women being boring), then that's going to come back at you.

I've got advanced degrees, journal publications, patents, etc. and am not usually referred to by others as a dumbass, but let me tell you: if you were to constantly talk to me about things like antimatter and circuits and the latest and "bestest" technology that can zip you into space and how many transistors you can fit in a mm^2 and whether ruby is better than perl or Andrew Wiles' solution to Fermat's last theorem or what the latest opinion on blackhole radiation is, then [b]I'd be bored too[/b].

There's a time and a place for everything. And sometimes, it's much more fun to talk about Snookie that it is to discuss antimatter.

On the flipside, if every time you talk about something like antimatter you get odd reactions, then I revert back to the old maxim: [b]It's not what you say. It's how your saying it.[/b]
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Postby Guest » Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:09 am

lol do I really come off like I think I'm superior? You're not the first to say that, but I don't get how. I'm not super smart, I didn't go to college, forgot half of what I learned in High school, I don't have model looks (hell, I'm 30lbs+ overweight)

The part about anti matter was really an accident.
I was at work, reading an article on my phone, and was talking to myself like "lol wow, that's pretty awesome!" and a co-worker overheard me and asked what I was talking about. I told her about the story and trying to keep it short and simple (The whole explanation only lasted 2 minutes at most...She didn't even know what "matter" is...) Later on, I thought to myself: "Who can I talk to about Science/Tech? Who can I talk to about politics? When is it "OK" to talk about "deeper" subjects?" I have no problem talking about controversial topics, and I don't mind talking to people with differing opinions/beliefs, It's usually the other party who gets pissed.
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Postby Guest » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:20 am

[URL]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/7351856/Scientists-find-mathematical-formula-for-the-perfect-wife.html[/URL]


If this is true, then I'm going to have to start hitting up MENSA meetings...
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Postby Guest » Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:39 pm

this whole conversation sounds like the dunning-kruger effect to me.

if you can't explain advanced physics concepts to a layman you probably shouldn't bring them up, because you are a layman and while you have read an article in physorg or where ever, you don't really understand it. I have never had a problem explaining what i mean by anti matter to someone who knows nothing about physics.
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Postby Guest » Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:41 am

[QUOTE=RockStar;41305]this whole conversation sounds like the dunning-kruger effect to me.

if you can't explain advanced physics concepts to a layman you probably shouldn't bring them up, because you are a layman and while you have read an article in physorg or where ever, you don't really understand it. I have never had a problem explaining what i mean by anti matter to someone who knows nothing about physics.[/QUOTE]


Hard to argue with that. Maybe it's you and not them.

I was reading an article about intelligence the other day and those people that tend to think everyone else is stupid are actually the ones that suffer from a lower level of intelligence. Smart people are fully aware of their shortcomings and have more realistic expectations of other people. In other words, smart people are smart enough to know that they don't know everything and, therefore, don't expect for everyone else to always make smart choices.

But, back to the OP. I think you're dealing with a maturity thing more than an intelligence thing. You think anti-matter is interesting. Great, good for you. Most people your age don't. As a matter of fact, most Americans are too distracted by pop culture to care about much of anything else. It's a form of social control to stop us from 'thinking,' these kinds of mechanisms have been in place since the beginning of mankind (religion used to be the mechanism that prevented people from thinking critically and thus questioning authority, government, and the power structure of society...now, it's American Idol and celebrity).

It's not that people are stupid, it's just that they focus their energies and spend their intellectual capital on the wrong things.
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Postby Guest » Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:48 am

[QUOTE=RockStar;41305]this whole conversation sounds like the dunning-kruger effect to me.

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[QUOTE=Bertrand Russell]"One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision"[/QUOTE].
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Postby Guest » Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:11 pm

[QUOTE]Originally Posted by Bertrand Russell
"One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision"[/QUOTE]

"Anyone who says that they understand Quantum Mechanics does not understand Quantum Mechanics"-Richard Feynman...Nobel prize winner, theorist and creator of quantum electrodynamics.

good quote finesse.
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Postby Guest » Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:00 pm

I only mentioned the conversation about antimatter because it was the most recent (happened hours before posting this thread) and the thread isn't really even about that. My frustration is more about the degradation of our culture. I don't care for "reality TV" or dancing competitions, or Lady Gaga. I'm concerned that I might have to conform to a culture that I think is stupid/lame/boring in order to relate.
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