Dallas PUA

I usually wouldn't post mundane things such as IM conversations, but it's dead here, so why not?

This is a girl I messaged twice on plentyoffish. She said she is not on there much, so to contact her on a messenger service (yahoo, aim, etc). I think her profile said she is 19.

Below is the IM convo we had. .



[COLOR=Red]ME: heyy 12:34 AM[/COLOR]
HER: Heyy 12:34 AM
[COLOR=Red]ME: wazzzzup? 12:35 AM[/COLOR]
HER: Trying on my bras and you? 12:36 AM
[COLOR=Red]ME: i'm actually doing the same thing. But I'm eating a pb and jelly sandwich at the same time. 12:37 AM
my fav is my pink polka dot one 12:38 AM[/COLOR]
HER: Hehehe i like the lacey ones 12:38 AM
Hahaha i wish my boobs were your size 12:39 AM
[COLOR=Red]ME: i've been looking for a velcro glow in the dark one lately, it would be much easier to put on and take off. 12:39 AM
may people do I have had 2 boob jobs so far. 12:39 AM
many** 12:39 AM[/COLOR]
HER: Oooo lucky! 12:40 AM
You poppin sexy 12:40 AM
[COLOR=Red]ME: hellz ya, i'm bringing sexy back! Just like the song. I sell my special mac n cheese to earn money for my boobs. 12:41 AM[/COLOR]
[COLOR=Black]HER: Oooo! I just dance for mine 12:43 AM[/COLOR]
[COLOR=Red]ME: oh! that sounds a lot easier. I can do the robot dance. What about you? 12:44 AM[/COLOR]
i[COLOR=Red] tried the moonwalk once, but I couldn't pull it off 12:44 AM[/COLOR]
HER: Hrmm if a polls near by that kind 12:45 AM
Awww not everyones mj 12:45 AM
Or just sexy without poll 12:45 AM
[COLOR=Red]ME: I wear one glove like mj does. 12:46 AM
and i think there is a poll at the firestation 12:46 AM[/COLOR]
HER: Heh i can just get my heels and thong bra im good to go 12:48 AM
[COLOR=Red]ME: ya, I'm using sandals right now, cuz my heels broke on me the other day. I almost tripped! 12:49 AM
but I'm okay now, so don't worry. 12:50 AM[/COLOR]
HER: O i was scared D: 12:51 AM
So you into naughty or good girls? Or do you like naughty but 12:51 AM
Are ashamed you do 12:51 AM
[COLOR=Red]ME: heh, i like everyone equally. Just like the barney song says. But can't complain about the naughty ones. 12:55 AM
i think i'm pretty naughty myself. I once stole a bag of jolly ranchers from the store. 12:55 AM[/COLOR]
[COLOR=SeaGreen][Ten MIN. pause. I had to change subjects][/COLOR]
[COLOR=Red]this new emarosa cd is pretty legit....what kinda of music are you into? Or do you just play a banjo all day? 1:05 AM[/COLOR]
HER: Hahaha i like rock 1:06 AM
And ooo never heard of them 1:06 AM
[COLOR=Red]ME: really? What bands do you jam out to? 1:07 AM[/COLOR]
HER: Flyleaf breaking benjamin likin park 1:08 AM
[COLOR=Red]ME: hmmm, I'm going to a drop dead gorgeous concert tomorrow. 1:11 AM
and I just learned twinkle twinkle little star on the guitar, I'm a pro at it. 1:11 AM[/COLOR]
HER: Ooo what kind 1:12 AM
[COLOR=Red]ME: acoustic! But you can hook it to an amp. I want an electric, but haven't gotten on yet. 1:12 AM[/COLOR]
HER: You crack me up 1:12 AM
[COLOR=Red]ME: ha, and why is that? 1:12 AM
you don't think twinkle twinkle is a good song? 1:13 AM[/COLOR]
HER...i feel guilty so there is something i should tell you 1:13 AM
And you have the right to hate me 1:13 AM
[COLOR=Red]ME: you play electric guitar? 1:13 AM[/COLOR]
HER: Lol listen to me! 1:14 AM
[COLOR=Red]ME: ok, earmuffs off. 1:14 AM[/COLOR]
HER: Me and a friend made this.. 1:14 AM
But your not a perv like al the others 1:14 AM
I felt bad 1:15 AM
To mess with perv guys 1:15 AM
[COLOR=Red]ME: i mess with perv guys all the time, no worries there. 1:17 AM[/COLOR]
HER: :/ your too nice 1:18 AM
Im sorry 1:18 AM
Stick with the god girls 1:19 AM
Good* 1:19 AM
And ur hilarious btw 1:19 AM
[COLOR=Red]ME: are you saying that because you play electic guitar? 1:19 AM
you can always go back to the acoustic ya know. 1:19 AM[/COLOR]
HER: Rofl wht*!? 1:20 AM
[COLOR=Red]ME: you said you're sorry, and I figured you were sorry because you don't play the acoustic guitar. 1:20 AM[/COLOR]
HER: Rofl! 1:21 AM
[COLOR=Red]ME: I played the violin back in the day. And I gotta admit, an electric violin would be pretty badass. 1:22 AM[/COLOR]
HER: Im afraid its too late for the acoustic! 1:22 AM
[COLOR=Red]ME: of course, its better to rock out with electric and wake the neighbors at 1:30! 1:23 AM
So, what instruments DO you play? 1:23 AM[/COLOR]
HER: Thatd rock! 1:25 AM
I need to go bai 1:25 AM
And a lil guitar 1:25 AM
But im sorry :/ 1:25 AM
[COLOR=Red]ME: ok. before you go, whats your name? 1:25 AM[/COLOR]
HER: Your very cool btw 1:25 AM
[COLOR=Red]ME: i'm just/us, but my friends call me buttercup. 1:26 AM
1:26 AM[/COLOR]
HER: [Hi, my name is dumb bitch] 1:28 AM
Buttercup xDD 1:28 AM
thankyou for being nice 1:28 AM
Bai 1:28 AM
[COLOR=Red]ME: cool. well [Dumb Bitch], it was nice to meet ya 1:28 AM
bye! 1:28 AM[/COLOR]
HER: You too! 1:30 AM
Thank you again 1:31 AM
[COLOR=Red]ME: cool, well Imma about to crash, its late gotta work. 1:32 AM
ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz...........................
[COLOR=DarkOrchid]/END COVO/[/COLOR]

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haha, so I guess this girl is pretty much a stupid dirty little slut.
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She's just one of those young girls that craves attention from any man they can get it from. They'll use their sexuality, or promises of sexuality, to lure them into a conversation like this only to cut them off and move on to the next sucker. They talk a good game but never, ever back it up because they lack the confidence and self-esteem to actually follow through. I've always felt sorry for these kinds of girls, the same type that flash their tits, make out with their friends at bars, and dance on tables...they do it all for attention because they have zero confidence and need constant reassurance.

Fucking with them is fun though. I'm pretty sure you knew exactly what she was about when she started off by saying she's trying on bras, dances with poles, and asked if you liked good or naughty girls.

[QUOTE=Bull Run;36721]She's just one of those young girls that craves attention from any man they can get it from. They'll use their sexuality, or promises of sexuality, to lure them into a conversation like this only to cut them off and move on to the next sucker. They talk a good game but never, ever back it up because they lack the confidence and self-esteem to actually follow through. I've always felt sorry for these kinds of girls, the same type that flash their tits, make out with their friends at bars, and dance on tables...they do it all for attention because they have zero confidence and need constant reassurance.

Fucking with them is fun though. I'm pretty sure you knew exactly what she was about when she started off by saying she's trying on bras, dances with poles, and asked if you liked good or naughty girls.[/QUOTE]

BR is dead on. I mean, what kind of girl mentions that she's trying on bras and enjoys dancing on poles within 5 mins of a convo with a complete stranger?

I think this chick is a dead end and is not worth pursuing. Now there is a possibility that this chick is actually really cool, but even then, I think you're blown out. Reason being that she specifically said that you're "too nice" multiple times. We all KNOW what that means, you've most likely been LJBF'ed. But being a friend is not such a bad thing. Use her to introduce you to her friends that you can game.

One thing I did notice is that the convo was pretty one sided. It was evident that you were more interested because the length and amount of your responses were much Longer and greater than hers; she had less invested in the convo.

It was hard to tell if she was genuinely interested or just being polite, but I'm leaning more towards just being polite and friendly. What you can do to gauge her interest is to not message her and see if she reinitiates communication. If she does, then you'll know she has some interest (either as friends or more). If not, then you just saved yourself some time and energy.

I know absolutely zero about "computer game" just to warn you, but if it is anything like the real world, then Prodigy was right and you were too nice. I probably would have taken it like this right off the bat...

HER "I am trying on bras..."
YOU "Are you trying to get me all hot? You're trouble."


It's hard to verbalize what the difference is, but yours just came across kind of limp, no offense.

I agree with BR. She never had any intention of hooking up with anybody. That's why she was apologizing. She set a trap to tool on perverted old guys and you walked into it. I think it's dead, but not because you're "too nice." In my interpretation, "too nice" means too legitimate a dating prospect for the game she was playing. In her mind she was too naughty and she wouldn't know how to interact with you after saying those things. She was clearly too embarrassed to continue the conversation.

Here's the way I see it. When you have a normal nonsexual conversation, and you ask a girl what she's doing, what does she normally say? Usually not "trying on bras" - so that right there should be a red flag for you.

So why is she saying this? Well, you know that women are always testing men, and that's what's happening here. She wants to see if you're the kind of guy who is comfortable being sexual or if you're going to be too nice or too creepy.

Since you changed the topic from sex, you failed her test, sorry, but it's a learning experience. What you subcommunicated was that you're uncomfortable talking about sexual things, and in girl-talk that is you being "too nice." (because bad/naughty girls have sex...)

The other way you could have bombed it, I think, is by being all serious and sexually direct and creepster - I think this is what a lot of AFC guys on internet boards would do but I don't know.

That's the best I can verbalize it.

But man, go back and re-read the IM. The sub-communication just screams out at you from the page. She KEPT trying to bring up sexual things and you kept changing the topic. COME ON JUSTUS MAN! Then she basically spells it out for you " "do you like naughty girls or nice girls?" She couldn't be more obvious bro!

[QUOTE=grimm1111;36729]But man, go back and re-read the IM. The sub-communication just screams out at you from the page. "do you like naughty girls or nice girls?" COME ON JUSTUS MAN! She couldn't be more obvious bro! And she gave you a ton of chances (which tells me she might be kind of desperate by the way).[/QUOTE]

Rather than looking for the subcommunication, look at the direct communication. She stated that she was apologizing because she and her friend set up that plentyoffish account to mess with perv guys. You can't get much clearer than that. She probably isn't 19, and she might not even be a female.

[QUOTE=Rhody;36730]Rather than looking for the subcommunication, look at the direct communication. She stated that she was apologizing because she and her friend set up that plentyoffish account to mess with perv guys. You can't get much clearer than that. She probably isn't 19, and she might not even be a female.[/QUOTE]

Dude, if you are going around looking at women's "direct communication" you are NOT getting laid. I'm not saying you're that kind of guy, but here's how it went down.

Justus - "What are you doing" (Translation: What are you doing?)

Her - "Trying on bras" - (Translation: I am sexy, look at me. Can you handle it?)

Justus - "Me too" (Translation: I am funny.)

Her - plays along... (Translation: I want to make you comfortable)

Her - "stripper pole" (Translation: OK let's try this again. I am sexy, can you handle that?)

Justus - "jolly ranchers." (Translation: I am uncomfortable with this topic with you, you are not attractive, let's talk about something else)

Her - "do you like naughty girls or nice girls?" (Translation - why don't you like me?)

Justus - logical answer (Translation: ??? )

Her - "You are a nice guy" (Translation: You are in the "has no penis" category. I will find someone else to fuck me.)

Justus - "Haha no problem" (Translation: Cool with me)

Her - "Me and my friend do this just to fuck with perv guys (Translation: I am a good girl. I can't be held responsible for trying to get you hot. I feel dirty and now I'm making myself feel better.")

Grimm, I'm going to disagree with you a little bit here. I think that the interaction was very, very clearly a trap. She was just trying to get him to bite into getting uber sexual with her so she could increase his buying temperature without any intention of ever following through. She said so herself. She apologized because she realized that she actually had snared a guy that was probably someone she would have liked to have met under different circumstances with a different frame.

The Internet is a funny thing. You can very, very easily get pulled into complying with this type of thing and you always end up being the butt of the joke. Because that's what this is at it's core a joke. She gets you to comply with her sexuality, she raises your temperature, then she cuts the thread and moves on down the road. She thinks it's funny because it reinforces her notion that men are pigs only interested in her for sex AND it makes her feel good about herself because you bought in and she GOTCHA. That's what this is all about, entertainment, self-fulfiling prophecies, making herself feel better about herself, and providing herself with the justification as to why she's still single (because men are pigs).

This was bait, not a test. Women do not test men via the Internet in a sexual manner, if they do these women are usually fucking gross. But, let's assume it was a test. Going sexual after she prompts you to do so would mean that you're complying with her reality. In doing so, you give her the power that you have as a man. Men are the aggressors, not women. When a woman starts getting aggressive, I always, always respond with a playful line. When a girl gets sexual, it's a shit test not a test of your sexuality. I've had the most success with just being playful in response. I once had a girl show me a naked pic over herself that she had on her phone. My response? "Wow...look at that, you have a kick ass flat screen TV!!!" (There was a flat screen TV in the background). My thinking was shame on you for trying to trick me with your pussy, so here's your punishment: I will not comply but I'm not going to be harsh about my non-compliance because I'm going to give you another chance to behave like a woman so I can be the man that I am.

I think ignoring a woman's direct sexual test like this actually shows how confident and strong you are as a man. A man, worth his salt, should never let sex, or the promise of sex, impact his decisions about a woman. Do not give her that power over you, don't respond to her sexual prompts. Instead, create your own, on your own time. Sure, you might get blown out, but that's so much better than her knowing that she can control you through her sexuality.

Part of getting laid is knowing when you're wasting your time. She pretty much said, "I'm a big cock tease who likes to torture perverts and you're not palying along. Stop wasting your time with me and go find a girl who will actually meet you in person."